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[Odowla]

Guys, I'm not sure a lalafell is going to be getting 7,668 MP from 10 levels. I think they inflated his mana just to show the rotation. That's 766 mana per level, so somewhere in the range of like, 90 piety. Yeah... no, that's not happening.

[Sleigh]

Guys, I'm not sure a lalafell is going to be getting 7,668 MP from 10 levels. I think they inflated his mana just to show the rotation. That's 766 mana per level, so somewhere in the range of like, 90 piety. Yeah... no, that's not happening.

I think the MP is legit due to the costs. Fire spells and MP were both roughly multiplied by 3.3, it's actually pretty much just a scaled up version of the same model we have at 50. Another small reason I think the MP values/costs are legit is, initially when we hit 50, our MP was higher than our HP. Obviously as we got gear our VIT increased and our Piety stayed static, so eventually BLM HP >>>> MP. I think what's shown in the video is a probable HP <> MP ratio as you'd first hit 60.

Even if the numbers aren't going to be exactly as shown there's a good chance the rotation will still roughly be some form of 5 F4s/F1s within a rotation. The numbers don't specifically mean too much, it's about what they let you do.

[Odowla]

I think the MP is legit due to the costs. Fire spells and MP were both roughly multiplied by 3.3, it's actually pretty much just a scaled up version of the same model we have at 50. Another small reason I think the MP values/costs are legit is, initially when we hit 50, our MP was higher than our HP. Obviously as we got gear our VIT increased and our Piety stayed static, so eventually BLM HP >>>> MP. I think what's shown in the video is a probable HP <> MP ratio as you'd first hit 60.

Even if the numbers aren't going to be exactly as shown there's a good chance the rotation will still roughly be some form of 5 F4s/F1s within a rotation. The numbers don't specifically mean too much, it's about what they let you do.

I don't think we're getting 90 piety per level... They also mentioned something about "dont mind the mp" or something like that towards the start, as he logged in, i believe.

He's also probably in dungeon gear, at the least, so if its /better/ than ilevel 130 gear we're still gonna see + 200 vit.. I don't think that's right. THat's a LOT of stats.

[Sleigh]

He's not getting 90 piety per level, you're correct. Piety MP gains scale with level, as does the baseline MP amount.

[Skeith-Adeline]

If we end up with more of a priority type rotation than a proc-based rotation, I'm hoping our DPS increase will be noticeable. I'm hoping Enochian just doesn't let us cast Fire 4 and Blizzard 4, and actually grants us some bonus because, if our DPS isn't worth the priority system, Monks will still take priority over "holding enemies" etc lol.

[Sleigh]

I think, outside of the opener, Sharpcast is gonna be used for Firestarter in one on one situations, most usually used after F3 at the start of a rotation. However, in fights with adds (AKA all of coil's turns so far, probably all of Alexander too), Sharpcast is gonna be used on Thundercloud constantly. Imagine T12 with Sharpcast, you'd have a 680 potency Thundercloud ready for every Bennu past the first one - that's noticeably stronger than two Fire 1s! Good Thundercloud usage on adds is gonna be a defining characteristic of high DPS BLMs I think, much like how Flaring 2 enemies constantly is a defining characteristic of today's high DPS BLM.

[Menae]

I don't think we're getting 90 piety per level... They also mentioned something about "dont mind the mp" or something like that towards the start, as he logged in, i believe.

He's also probably in dungeon gear, at the least, so if its /better/ than ilevel 130 gear we're still gonna see + 200 vit.. I don't think that's right. THat's a LOT of stats.

It's pretty standard to get a large amount of stat gain in an MMO expansion. It's a way of conveying to the player that yes, you are in fact gaining a lot of power even though you are only 5-10 levels higher.

You're just going to have to accept this and move on.

[SongJoohee]

Bah... The more I think about Enochian the more I dislike it. It'll be fun for sure to have what is basically a single target flare as our main DPS ability but I'm worried this gives us the current issue with Monk with GL... If the bosses go invulnerable a lot and we can't keep extending Eno... Our damage will go to crap. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to try and extend your eno at a few seconds left only to have the boss jump and you lose it.

Need to play it myself first ofcourse but I'm personally not feeling these new mechanics.

[Skeith-Adeline]

Bah... The more I think about Enochian the more I dislike it. It'll be fun for sure to have what is basically a single target flare as our main DPS ability but I'm worried this gives us the current issue with Monk with GL... If the bosses go invulnerable a lot and we can't keep extending Eno... Our damage will go to crap. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to try and extend your eno at a few seconds left only to have the boss jump and you lose it.

Need to play it myself first ofcourse but I'm personally not feeling these new mechanics.

We share sentiments lol. There will be ways to hold our Enochian, just like there are ways to hold stacks, but, i dunno.

[Sleigh]

Bah... The more I think about Enochian the more I dislike it. It'll be fun for sure to have what is basically a single target flare as our main DPS ability but I'm worried this gives us the current issue with Monk with GL... If the bosses go invulnerable a lot and we can't keep extending Eno... Our damage will go to crap. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to try and extend your eno at a few seconds left only to have the boss jump and you lose it.

Need to play it myself first ofcourse but I'm personally not feeling these new mechanics.

Definitely a valid concern but I at least hope the developers have that in mind when they design how long phase pushes are supposed to take, IE they might design a turn so typically a boss will go away around the time Enochian comes back a second time, much like how you'll see certain CDs line up with certain phases in T10-13. There's also the bonus that I don't foresee Enochian playing a large role in AoE rotations if at all (unless you are actively trying to keep up Enochian otherwise), so there may be times when Enochian drops but it's actually irrelevant in the phase at hand.

Worse comes to worst, SMN gets a slight edge at its core in fights where Enochian just doesn't work out properly. As long as that's the exception, and not the rule, I can live with that.