The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[Aikaal]

And the calculator is false to begin with lol. For black mages it is. YoU,ll AOE no matter what and spell speed doesnt add anything for AoE. You can argue with all your might. That calculator can't be use in scenario like T12 when you'll AoE adds. No sense for me to kill your main stat to lose that AoE DPS.

[Dervy]

DPS Calculator > BiS Solver > Parse. In that order.

That's why myself and MrYaah DPS check all sets that get spat out of our BiS solvers.

What calculator did you use?

[Ceveth]

And the calculator is false to begin with lol. For black mages it is. YoU,ll AOE no matter what and spell speed doesnt add anything for AoE. You can argue with all your might. That calculator can't be use in scenario like T12 when you'll AoE adds. No sense for me to kill your main stat to lose that AoE DPS.

That being said you have to consider the amount of time you actually spend in those AoE phases compared to the single target phases the calculator reflect. Also taking in to account my theorized set provided 64 additonal Determination, bringing the straight Intellegence loss to around 10~. Whether this loss is more then the single target gain from having more crit & spell speed is directly dependent on the duration of AoE parts of an encounter.

DPS Calculator > BiS Solver > Parse. In that order.

That's why myself and MrYaah DPS check all sets that get spat out of our BiS solvers.

What calculator did you use?

r u rlly srs

[Dervy]

As in, stat-weights Calculator or Puros DPS calculator? Or are both of his calcs combined? I don't read PuroStriders stuff much for many reasons. I just give advice.

[Ceveth]

As in, stat-weights Calculator or Puros DPS calculator? Or are both of his calcs combined? I don't read PuroStriders stuff much for many reasons. I just give advice.

The set I suggested is derived in two-fold, one using the most efficient ways to gain accuracy in terms of weighted stats. That work is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...qIQ/edit#gid=0

The weights used to determine which Dreadwyrm items to substitute for crafted ones were generated by inputting the sets with each individual piece changed (in to Puro's calculator) then taking the average weights and deriving the ratio of accuracy gained to theoretical intellect lost.

Deciding upon which pieces to substitute I then input the sets back in to Puro's Calculator to arrive at the total theoretical DPS.

[KroLeXz]

By the way I like having this discussion, as long as something meaningful comes out of it. I thought the benefit of the e-peen specially only for BLMs was to essentially to eliminate RNG and also by providing weekly updates (assuming if that person reupload an even better parse) gives us a theoretical max potential for a gear set.

You guys, and even more so the veteran number guys, are over thinking this - are these 100% accurate results? No. But they are directionally accurate, prove your data is right not that his is wrong.

[Dervy]

The set I suggested is derived in two-fold, one using the most efficient ways to gain accuracy in terms of weighted stats. That work is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...qIQ/edit#gid=0

The weights used to determine which Dreadwyrm items to substitute for crafted ones were generated by inputting the sets with each individual piece changed (in to Puro's calculator) then taking the average weights and deriving the ratio of accuracy gained to theoretical intellect lost.

Deciding upon which pieces to substitute I then input the sets back in to Puro's Calculator to arrive at the total theoretical DPS.

I know about Puros BLM calculator, silly. Who doesn't? I remember the arguments everyone had with PuroStrider about his Methodolgy to calculate weights and DPS (Hence why I don't look at his work, but just acknowledge it).

But... then I cannot argue with you, as that's the appropriate way to gauge BiS sets. Weightings become less accurate the further you decrease your main-stat (when when you use crafted pieces) so you must always double check with a DPS calculator.

[Sleigh]

To begin with. T13 parse is stupid. Too much DPS results in a painful death before dive bombs so you have to stop.

Actually the best cure for that situation is ... more DPS! Push before the Megaflare, the final wyvern spawns at a very easy time.

In T13, everybody will tell you the hardest phase is the adds + divebombs. You want to get rid of these mobs asap.

Depends on if you want the highest numbers you can do or the quickest clear. Progression groups and people looking to set records, definitely AoE. Fastest clear times, SS set probably, although I love the crit set for wyverns as it's just me and the BRD duoing them.

If you want me to be more direct then I can... I respect Puro's work and he's an amazing guy. But his stat wights and his calculator has one major flaw. It's set for a single target fight. This is not the case for 3 out of 4 FCoB fight. This means his calculator is correct but doesn't represent the reality.[/B] I used to follow those numbers by heart and one time I randomly added more crit to my set and my DPS gain was enormous in T10 and T12.

100% agree that building your sets on a dummy situation where SS is king is absolutely crazy, I've been saying this since a year ago. This was true in T6 and arguably T9 as well last raid cycle. That said, my current PoV on the turns:

T10 - crit crit crit, my CHR DET Zeta is easily BiS here even if I'd say most BLMs would spit on my Zeta
T11 - SS, no AoE at all anyway, and those fast casts can really help
T12 - Progression, crit all the way. Currently, in 3 Bennu groups ... I'd say SS is more desirable. In a group like mine you do get Flares but only about 2 in P1 and maybe 3-4 in add phase, otherwise it's a whole lot of ST, and literally no Fire IIs in, so that advantage is semi-moot. Back in the 4 Bennu days you could really make the most of it.
T13 - Hate to say it but I think SS is best here too ... but it's easily one of the most flexible turns in stat importance I'd say

Every single parse I've submitted has had two BLM. Drastically reducing the amount of AoE & duration of adds being alive, while having the effect of drastically increasing parse times due to overall lower single-target DPS. Despite this my parses are still sitting atop the leader boards. As I don't play massively better than anyone else I'm going to attribute this to better itemization.

For reference, the parses I submitted; Note every single one includes two BLM.

T10 560.4 http://puu.sh/gpd2W/9410c9730c.jpg
T11 545.7 http://i.imgur.com/BkO4jpv.jpg
T12 590.5 http://puu.sh/gpjX5/9ad67b3b8f.jpg
T13 514.3 http://i.imgur.com/RhQArlx.png

Most of your kill times are so slow you can do ridiculous padding with that level of DPS. You won't realize how drastic kill times and your group impact your personal DPS until you experience it yourself and have bad CD timers and adds die too fast ... it results in longer uptime on T10 adds, 2 sets of Blackfires and 4 Bennus in T12 which you apparently took quite advantage of instead of letting your SCH use one Bane as well as probably a very long post-first dodge phase (groups which kill immediately after first dodge phase will have deflated numbers compared to groups with more uptime).

I'm not saying you're good or bad or anything like that but BLM numbers are about 20% skill (assuming a high-level of skill as a baseline!), 10% luck, and about 70% the situation you're given. My best numbers have been in low DPS groups, because I'll get more uptime, more milking. These leaderboards, all of which I've seen beaten by myself or others except your modern day T12 milkathon, are really pointless.

[Aikaal]

Well, first of all. I made this set a none-crafted BiS. Reason I did this is because i was requested it. I,m also assuming 80% to 90% don't want to invest millions of gils in crafted gear. Raw damage from Intelligence seems to be overlooked because I have no issue. 530 DPS in T13 includes int party buff?

Also... if you get in a fight where your rotation changes because you AoE then all the value changes. I don't think anyone did a spreadsheet or a calculator based on 3 targets AoE for example.

@Dervy. Mryaah told me to make a calculator for this situation but I'm not good enough with maths for that lol

[KroLeXz]

It seems Spell Speed is the way to go, all parses indicate towards it and their all different groups. Maybe their should be a calculator for when you in a good group too?