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[Skeith-Adeline]

Oops, the instance I was referring to was T10. If I use Quelling on pull, I won't have it up for the Sons/Daughters. I still think we need an ability similar to Shroud of Saints or something lol.

[Sleigh]

Never thought of opening with a Fire 3 instead of a Thunder 3... Tried it tonight and stole the boss, and died LOL. I think I'll continue using it >

On a PLD opening with FoF, Sword Oath or Shield Oath, they'll hold in equal gear against raw F3 even if you get lucky. On a WAR, it depends on their opener, you can steal from them if you get lucky within a couple GCDs unless they use a high aggro less damage opener if not using Quelling.

With my opener I have a chance at a Firestarter going out within 3s of the pull (F3 > F1 > RS > potential F3) so it can be massive aggro without Quelling, but a good opener will hold from even that. Only crits are quite scary, and why I typically do use Quelling on pull.

For the son/daughter aggro, if your tank's not bringing it (they should!), you could just do T1 on both adds ASAP for minimal sustained loss and potential Thundercloud glory if you keep spreading it.

[Kona_Nightwind]

I've recently came back to the game. Not long after my old raid group asked me to replace there BLM, a class I had never played at 50, for T13 progression. I've read quite a bit on rotations, gear, etc. I thought I had a decent handle on things but after some more reading and progressing through T13, I have some things I need help cleaning up.

1. On the opener or anytime you have both RS/Convert available, what do you do when you get a lot of F3 procs or are using a lot of OGCD abilities and may not have enough RS for your instant flare? Do you hold onto F3 proc and finish off your mana with F1 then flare with RS up, or do you just cast your F3 procs?

[Kona_Nightwind]

2. From what I read today my AOE rotation has been wrong. I've been basically doing the single target rotation with F2 instead of F1, but I flare at the end of the fire rotation, and thats with 3+ targets. I should be doing F3 if no AF>Flare>transpose>F3(make sure to get the 2nd mana tick)>F1(if 2 targets) or F2(3+ targets) to make sure tranpose will be off CD>flare. I just want to make sure Im doing it correct. Like for Gust, I just try and flare as many times as I can and use F2 as a filler for transpose to come up. And for Sins or Sons/Daughters flare as much as I can with F1 as filler.
3. When is hard casting T1 on multiple targets a good idea?

Thanks for any help and I hope I'm making sense.

And how do you make post longer then 1000 characters? :P

[Waliel]

And how do you make post longer then 1000 characters? :P

Edit your post.

1. If it's just between Firestarter and Flare, choose Flare to fit into the last second of RS. If you get so many procs you can't even get your mana low before RS ends, I personally just continue it normally and just swift Flare - Convert anyway at the end. All the procs should've added up more than enough damage to make up for the loss of RS on the Flare. What I want to know, though, if it's worth it to skip one F1 to get RS Flare off in this situation. Probably not.

2. F3 - F1x4/F2x3 - Flare - Transpose - F3 - F1x2/F2x2 - Flare - etc. F1 for two and F2 for three or more targets.

3. Only if your tank is so undergeared and/or bad you will get aggro immediately otherwise. Never in normal situations.

[Sleigh]

3. When is hard casting T1 on multiple targets a good idea?

By hard casting do you mean using it within AH3 phase, or just mean using T1 without Thundercloud? If it's the former, strange wording, but pretty much never unless aggro's a thing. If it's the latter, if there are 2 enemies or more who will honestly let the DoTs breathe, it's very worth it to put out Thunders during UI3 phase, even cutting slightly into the time you're supposed to be going back to AH3. Unfortunately in most situations with multiple enemies, you'll be AoEing, or these multiple enemies barely live long enough for Thunder to breathe long enough, and/or one of the enemies has to be burned too hard for you to want to Thunder anyway.

[Kona_Nightwind]

Its was the latter. Sorry about the wording, I dont quite have BLM speak down. And thank you for the replies, it cleared up what I was wondering.
On another note any advice on the add phase in T13 would be much appreciated.

[Tarta]

Do you use Firestarter everytime it procs? If so, do you interrupt F1 cast to cast the F3? If no, do you cast the firestarter F3 after the next F1? What's optimal?

[Sleigh]

Do you use Firestarter everytime it procs? If so, do you interrupt F1 cast to cast the F3? If no, do you cast the firestarter F3 after the next F1? What's optimal?

Yes, no, yes

Firestarter gets used as much as possible but not at the expense of GCD time. The most basic level of Firestarter checking beyond using Thundercloud to check or an oGCD is when you just did a Fire and then have to actually move, you should be eyeing your Firestarter ASAP as you start to move.

[Tarta]

Yes, no, yes

Firestarter gets used as much as possible but not at the expense of GCD time. The most basic level of Firestarter checking beyond using Thundercloud to check or an oGCD is when you just did a Fire and then have to actually move, you should be eyeing your Firestarter ASAP as you start to move.

Thank you!