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    Just a quick suggestion,

    Could/would you please add the total stats gain + base stats under each BiS set? It would provide hard numbers on why each set is BiS, some baddies still thinks HQ crafted gear is better than ilvl90 gear. I even once had a crafter challenge me to 500k DPS bet in AK cause he has full melded crafted gear and my gear is no match to his (lel), he still owes me dat 500k.
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    Why does http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/ suggest different a different pre-Turn 9 BiS using your exact stat weights?
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    I'm not sure if anyone is interested at this point, but the BiS for Nexus is incorrect.

    Spreedsheet; Determination 31 & Spell Speed 44.
    444.5 - http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NXC7
    http://puu.sh/bQJ8y/b241745be1.png

    Proposed alternative; Accuracy 21, Determination 10 & Spell Speed 44. (Thanks to Zencurse.)
    445.4 - http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/NXDU
    http://puu.sh/bR1BR/9d95065307.png
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    Last edited by Ceveth; 09-28-2014 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceveth View Post
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    Could be interesting if true. But the increase looks rather small at best...And also I know a lot of BLMs are gearing their nexus to SS/Acc in prep for 2.4 accuracy caps. Though a 21, 31, 23 split does provide some accuracy. Obviously we've no clue what the caps will be in 2.4 but if thats just barely enough accuracy to push us over the cap in the right gear, it could be a decent setup. As for myself I'm still just gonna play it safe for now and go 44 SS/31 acc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceveth View Post
    DET is worth more than SSPD any other stat in the 1:1 ratio Nexus provides.
    You're going to want 31 DET on whatever you Nexus weapon is.
    I would not recommend 44 SS/31 ACC.
    Read this and double checked the spreadsheet, yea the new stat weights are much closer for SSpd and Det. But even at a 1:1 ratio SSpd comes out ahead still, even if not entirely, in some raid situations Fey Glow will be up at a 50% up time and increases the value of SSpd even further. Assuming Puro's math is correct wouldn't SSpd remain the better stat? Seriously if I'm missing something here lemme know, it just appears to point towards SSpd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zencurse View Post
    Read this and double checked the spreadsheet, yea the new stat weights are much closer for SSpd and Det. But even at a 1:1 ratio SSpd comes out ahead still, even if not entirely, in some raid situations Fey Glow will be up at a 50% up time and increases the value of SSpd even further. Assuming Puro's math is correct wouldn't SSpd remain the better stat? Seriously if I'm missing something here lemme know, it just appears to point towards SSpd.
    It appears my previous statement was erroneous & after the most recent update "melding" SSPD instead of DET 1:1 does appear to be better.
    I'll have to take a second look at the Nexus meld I had proposed.

    After editing the previous BiS Nexus proposition it appears to be closer to a 1 DPS increase now.
    The real take-home should be that the Nexus weapon is 1.2~ DPS better than the HA one, despite SE saying that this would never be the case.
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    Last edited by Ceveth; 09-28-2014 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceveth View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone is interested at this point, but the BiS for Nexus is incorrect.

    Spreedsheet; Determination 31 & Spell Speed 44.
    I've started to notice quite a bit of BLMs with this on their Novus. I went for a cheaper, more balanced Novus of 21 crit 21 det and 33 ss. Is it really worth remelding the extra SS/Det you think? I'm not too active in coil :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeny View Post
    I've started to notice quite a bit of BLMs with this on their Novus. I went for a cheaper, more balanced Novus of 21 crit 21 det and 33 ss. Is it really worth remelding the extra SS/Det you think? I'm not too active in coil :S
    Well, as you can see here. That it's a 1.2~ DPS increase & requires you to use expensive 3* food.

    This a choice you should make yourself, as it is not vastly superior by any means, which is why I'm assuming Puro has not updated his spreadsheet.

    You should also note melding a small bit of accuracy as proposed by the alternative melds affords you a little wiggle room going forward where we expect to see accuracy needs increase.
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    I'm not understanding why you develop a calculator that gives you theoretical DPS values then you go about listing five different sets of gear.

    BiS means best in slot, you cannot have two different items in the same slot that are best.

    You have weights and theoretical values, use them. Don't clog the spreadsheet with silly stuff.

    People who are educated enough to use different sets of gear won't be checking the spreadsheet for a BiS list anyways.
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