MVP Voting

[Orophin]

Well, I don't know if I'll ever get voted "MIP" or not. I'm the type of person that joins a DF group, says "hi" and proceeds to do my job. I'll normally answer questions or offer strategies for boss fights for people that are new, but I don't go out of my way to force friendly banter on people or anything like that. It almost sounds like the system is making you go out of your way to be social and friendly just so you can get that "Like" so you can get your shinies.

Most likely my votes will go towards the people who look like they're performing their role the best.

[Billie21]

Most likely my votes will go towards the people who look like they're performing their role the best.

It's your call.

Basically, it's a system that allows the community to reward people who behave the way they feel is most apropriate in DF, and thus set "general models" to what kind of people FFXIV's players like to play with.
As to *what* it is that the community as a whole like the most, we will know when we see the result of MIP.

[Minigae]

Its a good idea in the intent of it. MMOs are missing repercussions/rewards for actions by players to give them incentive to be better(not just skill but attitude). But I don't think this mvp system will have enough reward or be used correctly often enough to have any real impact. The vote kick system if not too limited will have more of an impact(still not enough)

Sitting in jueno for 6 hours because you either were a bad player or had a bad attitude now that was incentive to be better. Sitting for months in town crafting because no decent LS will take you, that's incentive. Getting that item that .01 percent of the server have, that's incentive.

[Saevel]

Sitting in jueno for 6 hours because you either were a bad player or had a bad attitude now that was incentive to be better. Sitting for months in town crafting because no decent LS will take you, that's incentive.

For all its good, the Duty Finder eliminated this social repercussion. You can no longer choose not to associate with jerks and players that refuse to get better. You can, however, rewards the rare gems that are not like that.

Is it perfect? No. But in conjunction with vote kick, and short of transitioning to a single player game, there's really no argument that it won't help even a little. And I think that many people underestimate the motivation that minions, mounts, costumes, decorations, titles, furniture, and any other vanity features gives players.

[Sephirah]

Boosh, live-lettered:

Q34: I am concerned that the MVP system will cause more player-to-player conflicts.

A34: We believe the players got the wrong idea of the system because we called it the MVP system. Therefore, we have decided to change it to the “MIP (Most Impressive Player)” system. Simply put, we would like for you to vote on the player that was the nicest member instead of the voting on the player that was the best during the run. We wanted it to be a feature where players were able to thank each other.

Q39: Are there any limitations to voting with the MIP feature such as the number of times you can vote or who you can vote on?

A39: The MIP feature can only be used when you are playing solo. This is both for the voter and the person that is being voted for.

[ShinigamiB06]

hey what the hell happened to my comment? i posted a nice explanation on how this MIP system could be exploited and it gets deleted?

[Sephirah]

It can't be, as mentioned in the live letter, you HAVE to be solo, there is absolutely no way for you and your friends to manipulate the vote.

[ShinigamiB06]

It can't be, as mentioned in the live letter, you HAVE to be solo, there is absolutely no way for you and your friends to manipulate the vote.

I already posted an explanation on how this system has a flaw. it does not involve manipulating it with your friends. it explains how it benefits you to not cast a vote for anyone.

again, why was my comment taken down!?

[Billie21]

I already posted an explanation on how this system has a flaw. it does not involve manipulating it with your friends. it explains how it benefits you to not cast a vote for anyone.

again, why was my comment taken down!?

I remember that post, and it made sense, in the case where there is only one MIP per dungeon.

I must have missed the official comment that explained that there would be one single player per dungeon getting one MIP point per dungeon max, because the comment quoted in the OP as I understand it, means youget points everytime someone votes for you (in which case, the loophole you were describing doesn't apply).
I would be gratefull if someone could link the official comment explaining this.

[ShinigamiB06]

I remember that post, and it made sense, in the case where there is only one MIP per dungeon.

I must have missed the official comment that explained that there would be one single player per dungeon getting one MIP point per dungeon max, because the comment quoted in the OP as I understand it, means youget points everytime someone votes for you (in which case, the loophole you were describing doesn't apply).
I would be gratefull if someone could link the official comment explaining this.

oh i see what you are saying. and the end of the dungeon, an "MVP" isnt chosen. you simply get points based on how many votes you got, anywhere between 0-3. if that system is the one implemented, then these japanese have once again proven that they are the smart ones. And like you say, what i pointed out would not be the case where it to be a point system rather than "choosing through votes"

you were informative and apt. my hats of to you for being the rarity in an internet forum