Market Wards, enough is enough

[Kailea_Nagisa]

MW is barely-functional garbage. What's your point?

market wards are different, that is all, people need to get over this BS they seem to have, they wanted different, they got different, now they want is back the way it was..... sorry but you dont get both.

Market Wards (I will say it again.... ) will work, but they just need some more refinement, a lot of the whiners on this forum seem to want everything now now now, well to bad, things take time, coding and debugging take time......

[Wolfie]

market wards are different, that is all, people need to get over this BS they seem to have, they wanted different, they got different, now they want is back the way it was..... sorry but you dont get both.

Market Wards (I will say it again.... ) will work, but they just need some more refinement, a lot of the whiners on this forum seem to want everything now now now, well to bad, things take time, coding and debugging take time......

Barely-functional is indeed different from good. But no amount of refinement will make them good, because (for the millionth-and-one time) the design is fundamentally flawed. You can't fix that.

[Wynn]

Barely-functional is indeed different from good. But no amount of refinement will make them good, because (for the millionth-and-one time) the design is fundamentally flawed. You can't fix that.

I wish one of you would enlighten the rest of us with this fundamental flaw you are mentioning. A person not liking to zone to pick up their junk is not a fundamental flaw, it is a preference.

[Leeloo]

So basically now we have Group A(thinks the market wards can still be greatly improved) vs Group B(MW are fubar, move on)? Hmm, I never minded the MW, I can find what I need quickly. Not sure what others are talking about when they say it takes an hour. But if they can't fix the crashing and improve in other areas the only solution left is to scrap it.

My confidence in them fixing it is dwindling.

[Wolfie]

So basically now we have Group A(thinks the market wards can still be greatly improved) vs Group B(MW are fubar, move on)? Hmm, I never minded the MW, I can find what I need quickly. Not sure what others are talking about when they say it takes an hour. But if they can't fix the crashing and improve in other areas the only solution left is to scrap it.

My confidence in them fixing it is dwindling.

I'd be okay with SE leaving MW in and adding a separate, no NPC, window UI based system. Neither system would die, they would just complement each other.

[Leeloo]

I'd be okay with SE leaving MW in and adding a separate, no NPC, window UI based system. Neither system would die, they would just complement each other.

Yea I should've included that option in my previous post.

When you need to buy 8 different items for 1 recipe, how long does it take you?

Because it'd take me at least 15 minutes or so. Which is ridiculous.

And yea I can see that being annoying. One of many things in this game where you may not realize it during, but suddenly you notice it's been a few hours and you don't feel you've done a whole hell of a lot.

[Dizmo]

When you need to buy 8 different items for 1 recipe, how long does it take you?

Because it'd take me at least 15 minutes or so. Which is ridiculous.

[Physic]

When you need to buy 8 different items for 1 recipe, how long does it take you?

Because it'd take me at least 15 minutes or so. Which is ridiculous.

never understood why someone thinks that items in a game should just appear in thier inventory with no involvement or cost. Games mirror real things, there is nothing real where you have instant transmission of items upon buying them. While because it is a game they are going to lower or diminish real time things, Each player of the game decides what they think is enough. Some people would rather that you could teleport directly to every encounter in battle, other people think that traveling and having a world with monsters in it that you have to actually travel to is better. It depends on the person, nobody is intrinsicly right or wrong.

But imo, the market wards has more potential for growth and making merchanting an interesting mini game, whereas AH is the equivalent of making battle more text based. Essentially if you hate merchanting, then some version of AH is your answer, maybe with various controls to try to reduce exploitation, if you enjoy merchanting and immersion in the merchanting world then you probably would prefer some version of a Market system, maybe bigger or more extravangant, with specific things, but you want them to build on that system. Make no mistake though, the perfect instant item see every item created, and every item sold and every item cost AH can not coexist with the market wards, unless it has a heavy tax. So Id rather see the MW which has the potential of becoming a sprawling town with tons of items, shop advertising, shop building, management than an AH which has the potential of becoming a wall of text.

simply a matter of perspective

[Sorel]

When you need to buy 8 different items for 1 recipe, how long does it take you?

Because it'd take me at least 15 minutes or so. Which is ridiculous.

Really?? 15 minutes?? Ridiculous?? When people were saying "it takes an hour to do XYZ", I could agree that it was a reason for complaint. 15 minutes?? Not so much.

[SuzakuCMX]

I kinda wanna play amazon.com the game >_>