Market Wards, enough is enough

[Dreamer]

I think the market ward system is fine, BUT, I still stand by my assertion that the wards should be enlarged, should require retainers to be in a stall in order to cap how many retainers are in a single ward (hence why they need to be enlarged first - I would recommend a design that allows for roughly 3x as many stalls as they currently have), and should force all the cities to be at least 75% full before spawning a new shard for that ward (Tinkerer's Ward 1, Tinkerer's Ward 2, etc).

[Vesperia]

So the market wards just crashed on my server and now I can't even log back in because I was in them at the time. I think enough is enough. I acknowledge people's desires to keep the market wards, and I too like them when they're working properly. But it's been 7 months since release and they're still not stable. What's going to happen when we have more than 500~ people per server?

Every day on the lodestone there are multiple updates regarding world recoveries. All of them are due to market wards crashing in Ul'dah. I think you've had enough time to fix this SE, and it clearly shows that this will never be possible. I hate to say it, but just give us an AH already. I'd much rather have a stable system than one that isn't easily manipulated. According to those who are in favor of the wards, this seems to be the main argument. To be honest though, I still think the Market Wards are much easier to manipulate than an AH.

Stable AH/market system, yes please.

Make an AH system and make retainers able to set up stands in the streets. Bring it to the streets!

The market wards are claustrophobic, and boring, and unstable.

[Eldaena]

I think the market ward system is fine, BUT, I still stand by my assertion that the wards should be enlarged, should require retainers to be in a stall in order to cap how many retainers are in a single ward (hence why they need to be enlarged first - I would recommend a design that allows for roughly 3x as many stalls as they currently have), and should force all the cities to be at least 75% full before spawning a new shard for that ward (Tinkerer's Ward 1, Tinkerer's Ward 2, etc).

I think they need to give us more stalls too. And make it required to be in a stall of some kind. It's a way to keep the retainers updated as well as getting more gil out of the system.

I think they need to figure out the instability issues, though I wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes we don't see? There hasn't been a lot of issues with crashing for me until recently, like the last couple days. Oddly enough, a few days before the patch they announced. Could something be going on with getting ready for that patch? At any rate, they need to stabilize it.

[Vesperia]

Instanced market wards are stupid. Get those instances out of my face.

[Eldaena]

Make an AH system and make retainers able to set up stands in the streets. Bring it to the streets!

The market wards are claustrophobic, and boring, and unstable.

lol do you want a bunch of lag in town?

[Vesperia]

lol do you want a bunch of lag in town?

No I want SE to bring retainers to the streets and then I want them to fix whatever lag it causes.

Earn their pay. Do what they get paid for. Fix the bugs. Fix the lag.

[MeowyWowie]

Just to clarify, my frustration is not due to the design of how the wards work but that they are completely unstable. If they didn't crash multiple times across all servers I really wouldn't care what system we had. As long as it's stable... Sadly I don't see this ever happening with the market wards though.

[Vesperia]

Just to clarify, my frustration is not due to the design of how the wards work but that they are completely unstable. If they didn't crash multiple times across all servers I really wouldn't care what system we had. As long as it's stable... Sadly I don't see this ever happening with the market wards though.

Bring it to the streets.

[Eldaena]

No I want SE to bring retainers to the streets and then I want them to fix whatever lag it causes.

Earn their pay. Do what they get paid for. Fix the bugs. Fix the lag.

I don't think that it is a feasible option to put retainers in the streets. It would cause lag in even the least laggy scenario we can come up with. They would get rid of wards and retainers before they would do this.

On topic, the crashes have been much better since earlier in the game. All I can say in SE's defense is they have been working on it and improving it. It's on the list from the letter as well, so hopefully more if it will be resolved soon. ^^

[Vesperia]

I don't think that it is a feasible option to put retainers in the streets. It would cause lag in even the least laggy scenario we can come up with. They would get rid of wards and retainers before they would do this.

On topic, the crashes have been much better since earlier in the game. All I can say in SE's defense is they have been working on it and improving it. It's on the list from the letter as well, so hopefully more if it will be resolved soon. ^^

Get rid of wards, and instead of wards put an AH and then let us put our retainers in the streets and set up stands like a true "MARKET AREA". If an NPC can do it, I should be able to do it too. No immersion at all! Where is the atmopshere of a living, breathing economy?

Bring it to the streets.