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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikyo View Post
    Ah is a better system all out man i hope they realize this soon retainer wards crashing isnt the only problem with this system...

    You should be able to find what u want and buy it on the spot, not find the item zone until u look through each retainer see who has nq or hq because its not shown on the list, then buy.... Its like we have taken a step backwards and they called it inovation?.... how could anyone not see this.

    Then you have the blind loyallist that are like brainwashed by the word new, but new isnt always better man sheesh
    If new means you have to jump through extra freakin loops to get the same results as old f that i rather have the old way damn...
    So you are saying it's better because it's slightly faster and you stand in one spot.
    Go read some of my last 4 posts.

    I know lots of people don't care about handing over the reins to RMT, but I do and so does SE.

    Give me another reason AH is better than it's marginally faster and you don't have to walk 50 yalms.
    You want SE to listen to you, I suggest you all think of something they haven't and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    So you are saying it's better because it's slightly faster and you stand in one spot.
    Go read some of my last 4 posts.

    I know lots of people don't care about handing over the reins to RMT, but I do and so does SE.

    Give me another reason AH is better than it's marginally faster and you don't have to walk 50 yalms.
    You want SE to listen to you, I suggest you all think of something they haven't and fast.
    I suggest you think of whats going to happen to the market ward system when servers have more than 1000 players, or are we fine having 5 different battlecraft wards and potentially even more crashing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    I suggest you think of whats going to happen to the market ward system when servers have more than 1000 players, or are we fine having 5 different battlecraft wards and potentially even more crashing?
    Considering everyone telling me they'll quit if there's no AH put in place, I'm not worried about crossing the 1000 player bridge just yet. It's months away at best. At no time did I say the Wards are perfect and don't need constant attention to work optimally. Quote me where you got that implication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    So you are saying it's better because it's slightly faster and you stand in one spot.
    Go read some of my last 4 posts.

    I know lots of people don't care about handing over the reins to RMT, but I do and so does SE.

    Give me another reason AH is better than it's marginally faster and you don't have to walk 50 yalms.
    You want SE to listen to you, I suggest you all think of something they haven't and fast.
    u didnt read the end of my post when i said blind greased up loyalist get the ignor list.
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    The market crash is the best time to peddle your wares for outrageous prices.

    Don't see me complaining. ^^

    I love the Wards. Aside from the crashes it is a far superior place to buy and sell goods in my opinion. I hope they never go away and I hope they never move to AH. If that keeps people away from the game (I don't see why) oh well. Your loss for not trying to understand how it can benefit you rather than hinder you.

    There could be better systems than the Wards (in fact, I can think of some) but Wards are better than an Auction House in principle. It just needs to work right and stabilize.
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    Last edited by Shai; 05-22-2011 at 09:06 PM.

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    I think the market ward system is fine, BUT, I still stand by my assertion that the wards should be enlarged, should require retainers to be in a stall in order to cap how many retainers are in a single ward (hence why they need to be enlarged first - I would recommend a design that allows for roughly 3x as many stalls as they currently have), and should force all the cities to be at least 75% full before spawning a new shard for that ward (Tinkerer's Ward 1, Tinkerer's Ward 2, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    I think the market ward system is fine, BUT, I still stand by my assertion that the wards should be enlarged, should require retainers to be in a stall in order to cap how many retainers are in a single ward (hence why they need to be enlarged first - I would recommend a design that allows for roughly 3x as many stalls as they currently have), and should force all the cities to be at least 75% full before spawning a new shard for that ward (Tinkerer's Ward 1, Tinkerer's Ward 2, etc).
    I think they need to give us more stalls too. And make it required to be in a stall of some kind. It's a way to keep the retainers updated as well as getting more gil out of the system.

    I think they need to figure out the instability issues, though I wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes we don't see? There hasn't been a lot of issues with crashing for me until recently, like the last couple days. Oddly enough, a few days before the patch they announced. Could something be going on with getting ready for that patch? At any rate, they need to stabilize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    So the market wards just crashed on my server and now I can't even log back in because I was in them at the time. I think enough is enough. I acknowledge people's desires to keep the market wards, and I too like them when they're working properly. But it's been 7 months since release and they're still not stable. What's going to happen when we have more than 500~ people per server?

    Every day on the lodestone there are multiple updates regarding world recoveries. All of them are due to market wards crashing in Ul'dah. I think you've had enough time to fix this SE, and it clearly shows that this will never be possible. I hate to say it, but just give us an AH already. I'd much rather have a stable system than one that isn't easily manipulated. According to those who are in favor of the wards, this seems to be the main argument. To be honest though, I still think the Market Wards are much easier to manipulate than an AH.

    Stable AH/market system, yes please.
    Make an AH system and make retainers able to set up stands in the streets. Bring it to the streets!

    The market wards are claustrophobic, and boring, and unstable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Make an AH system and make retainers able to set up stands in the streets. Bring it to the streets!

    The market wards are claustrophobic, and boring, and unstable.
    lol do you want a bunch of lag in town?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    lol do you want a bunch of lag in town?
    No I want SE to bring retainers to the streets and then I want them to fix whatever lag it causes.

    Earn their pay. Do what they get paid for. Fix the bugs. Fix the lag.
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