Market Wards, enough is enough

[Larther]

Auction House, please.

[Demacia]

Just cut the retainer selling bullshit and make all sales happen through an interface (aka an AH).

[Gracious]

There are players that simply want an Auction House. Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

[Elexia]

There are players that simply want an Auction House. Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

It's easy to understand.

I want a personal airship.

I want my Corsair back.

I want my Dark Knight back.

What pro-AH people don't understand is that having an AH implemented won't fix anything wrong with this game.

[IveraIvalice]

What pro-AH people don't understand is that having an AH implemented won't fix anything wrong with this game.

all i got to say is wow
we're not saying something like "i want conjurer to be named black mage"
THAT wouldnt help fix anything at all.
obviously an AH would help the game and make things easier unless we wouldnt be mentioning it like that

[yukikaze_yanagi]

all i got to say is wow
we're not saying something like "i want conjurer to be named black mage"
THAT wouldnt help fix anything at all.
obviously an AH would help the game and make things easier unless we wouldnt be mentioning it like that

well, seems the devs don't look it in that way. And he's said in this same topic:

Rest assured that the team is in the process on stabilizing and improving the current retainer system. Something that I want everyone to keep in mind is that even if we simply changed the current system over to an auction house, that doesn’t mean it would solve all of our problems overnight. There are more things that would still need to be adjusted if that were to happen. As such we aren't currently planning on switching over to an auction house system as of yet.

[IveraIvalice]

well, seems the devs don't look it in that way. And he's said in this same topic:

indeed, thats because the current system works. i dont think that would be argued. its possible to do everything we need in the MW system.
and because of that, they don't feel its necessary to change it.
but the problem isnt that its possible, its about how easy and convenient it is.

[Elexia]

all i got to say is wow
we're not saying something like "i want conjurer to be named black mage"
THAT wouldnt help fix anything at all.
obviously an AH would help the game and make things easier unless we wouldnt be mentioning it like that

Actually, having defined classes (which they're working on) would do wonders for battle strategies. We can't be selective in what we feel would and wouldn't fix the game. How would spending time and resources making an AH system fix the game when they can just work on the already established system that's already similar? The rep already said it won't be an instant fix or anything so people suggesting it clearly seems to think it would be an instant fix or why else suggest it?

Seriously, it's already clear most people are talking about the non-bidding type of AH, so what would be the immediate difference between MW and AH beyond being able to buy from where you search? Both requires category browsing and both have a search system.

[Shika]

I don't mind what we have- whether it is a Market Ward system or an Auction House system. Call it Bob for all I care.
As long as I can search for the item I want to buy and find it quickly, then it doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me if I have to zone into a ward to find the bazaar selling the item; to me it is not that huge a deal, although I know it annoys some people. Aren't MMO's supposed to be timesinks anyway? :P

I think the Market Ward system is a lot better than it used to be- there are still some tweaks required in terms of item searching capability and maybe being able to see pricing history etc. The wards here on Bodhum have been pretty stable for a while (retainers even stayed up through the maintenance the other day like they promised they would do!).

I played FFXI for 5 years so obviously some sort of AH counter system would be, to me personally, maybe a little more comfortable because of the familiarity- assuming it is very similar to the one in FFXI. But, I don't mind the market wards and just feel some adjustments and improvements are needed. Retainers holding items, requesting items to buy, or seeking repairs etc as well as selling stuff in the wards has a lot of potential with the right implementation- they just need to adjust the way this works a bit.

What if the developers never put the Auction House counter system from FFXI into the game?

What if they improved the ward system so that you could really easily find an item that you were looking for (including differentiation for +1, +2 and +3) maybe by changing the criteria for searching at the counter to simplify it- i.e. not just by each ward but by type of item instead, see a price history, maybe link all three city's wards together in some way rather than having to travel, and whatever other adjustments that are requested- if the only difference is that you had to zone into a ward to buy the item from a retainer is that really such an issue?

If it is, then maybe they could introduce a way of being able to purchase from the item search counter and have the wards for retainers where people want to browse bazaars, seek repairs and request the purchase of items. A compromise

[Seif]

Just put the damn Auction House in there!

How many players would return if SE could advertise a new AH system that people have for so long wanted?

How many players would return to see new tweaks to the current mess?

AH has a lot more value than just the function and ease of use. It's a marketing tool that SE needs BADLY. Personally I'm not using MW at all just because I hate the entire system from the bottom of my black soul