Suggestion for fixing double-SCH without affecting single SCH balance.

[Telsia]

Currently, it is possible to use the Dungeon Finder to join an 8-person group, which includes two healers, which can end up both being Scholars. One of the more significant downsides to this is that the SCH class-defining heals place Adloquium, a shield which absorbs incoming damage but does not stack with other casts of Adloquium.

Problem: if a large amount of incoming damage prompts both scholars to cast Adloquium or Succor at the same time (eg: Titan stomps) then a quarter of the total healing potential is lost. Furthermore, such coordinated Scholars can do very little to restore the health to the entire group, as any further Succors are only providing half their intended benefit.

Solution: if an Adloquium shield effect is present on a target when another Adloquium shield would be applied, the first shield is converted into health and the target is healed that amount. This would allow twin-scholar DF-assembled Titan groups to better heal up the group after stomps.

Possible counter-argument: this, as written, could potentially make scholars too powerful in single groups, by spamming Adloquium or Succor and restoring more health than intended.

Solution to counter-argument: the shield-convert-to-health only occurs when the Adloquium shield effect currently on the target was placed there by a different scholar. This would ensure that a group with a single Scholar continues to function as it does currently, and even in a group with two Scholars, one could not use this feature to augment their own healing. In other words, the change would only assist two coordinated scholars when both are applying Adloquium shields.

[sharazisspecial]

Would really love double sch fixed.

Convert adloquium/succor shields into extra healing if there is another sch shield on your target is a good idea. Probably the most balanced way to fix it

It basically turns the second sch adloquium into a weaker version of cure 2 and the second sch succor into medica.

Se could also just let 2 different sch shields stack. It depends on if they are able to implement the above fix or not.

[Weltende]

I would like to think there's a way they could allow multiple Adloquium effects to stack, since from what I've noticed Adlo stacks with Stoneskin in a way that the shield from Adlo/Succor will absorb damage before Stoneskin will (this priority is likely because of the relative duration of each buff).

I wouldn't mind if Adloquium effects simply converted to raw healing without the caveat of having another scholar putting the existing shield on first. As was pointed out, at that point it's only slightly lower potency than a Cure 2 and even stronger if the critical bonus is kept intact.

[peaches]

This is actually an amazing solution - but I would like to see this applied to single Scholar heals as well. Yes, it would mean we could cure a ton with two Adlo's. But two Adlo's cost a lot of MP, probably on par with Cure II. Same with Succor. Yea, it'd be GREAT if two shields could stack. But when you need to actually get them back up to 100% health, a shield isn't going to help you, especially if they aren't taking damage. That's the issue with Bubbles, raw heals will always be better. A bubble is temporary, and can be wasted. A party wide Bubble is great, but I'd rather cure 500 to everyone, than cure 250 and bubble for 250. If the Bubble takes no damage, you're only getting a lame 250 cure.

Of course, they would never do that for single Scholars, so I guess I'd settle for the dual Scholar fix :P

[Syncness]

If they can make same dots stack side by side, it is beyond me how they can't (or didn't) make same buffs stack - just for shields from different parties.

[Garnatian]

The only thing that needs to be tweaked is Succor, Adloquium (the ability) is fine in double SCH. All they really need to do is increase Succor's potency if the Shield is present.

[Miiu]

Love the idea @ OP.

[vpc]

As a whm main and off-sch, I support this. No reason to shaft double scholar team while WHM hots can stack. Double scholar team should be able to sync as well as whm/wm, although neither should ever top whm/sch imo.

[Citizen_Thom]

Because I'm loving playing Scholar...I've gotta say, yes please do what the original post suggests. And yeah, for balance, it's fine if it's an overheal with regards to enmity when the shield gets converted to health.

[Valya]

I don't like this. It makes double SCH play very similarly to SCH + WHM, turning the second SCH into a reactive healer at need --- which doesn't really respect the WHM "niche."

Honestly, rather than buffing double SCH, I'd rather nerf double WHM. Make it so that regens don't stack, and the Medica II HOT doesn't stack, and I think the "balance" issue goes away, and both niches are protected.