Whats wrong with Monks? (or am i missing something)

[Kijimea]

Yo guys, since release i checked forums and i was never satisfied with rotations posted here. I play a monk myself and i would say i play him very well. There were so many discussions about using dots or not and how and stuff. I dont think there is any reason that you dont use any of those 3 dots. Every dot has more potency than snap punch or impulse drive.
Now after the first two twintania kills, they both had monks. And both of them didnt use dots properly. I cannot speak for BG since i didnt see dots clearly but for the world second, he didnt use fracture. Why the hell doesnt he use fracture? I just dont get it seriously.

I know there is no static rotation on paper which is the "best" but still you should be able to squeez in all the dots without a problem, even Impulse drive without getting problems with TP. At least from the world first(s) i expected a better monk play.

Edit:

Example how i use all dots and Pots + PB.
http://youtu.be/IumrIodY7S4

Considering you get TP song here and there you dont need to worry at all abt TP. If not, it depends on the fight. Titan HM is a good example that with ID TP will be a problem at the end. Twintania isnt a problem without TP song if you hold it a bit back until conflag phase begins. I dont see a better way to use PB and as you can see it is not difficult to use all dots at all.

http://www7.pic-upload.de/30.10.13/xsoxydzguxt.jpg (Random made Parsershot while in Conflag Phase)

[Kijimea]

At least when it comes to rotations, not about movement and stuff i still believe they are good, otherwise they wouldnt have killed twintania so dont get me wrong but they dont play monk as its full potential in my opinion which i dont get.

I might probably post a video about my rotation later (cannot load character). Again, i am not sayin my rotation is the "best", but playing with all dots without clipping and stuff is still more rewarding in terms of dps than dropping a dot. If i have to throw numbers now i can tell for example that on twintania until dive bomb phase i get about 270-310 dps, depending on critluck and of course crappy parser dots.

[Naalya-Deix]

Noticed how you lose TWs and DK debuff during whole 10 sec of PB and one cycle duration (6 sec~) more since you can't apply DK when PB is out ? lol. That is a LOT of damage lost (if you consider PB this way, which I don't and don't recommend unless you are maintaining buff which is in this case not a burst at all and brings back the idea of using PB at first cause GL3 the sooner the better).

But you're right about DoTs. But we do have PT issue (which I do using BS > ID > ID > TwS > SP > DK ... rotation) if Bard is not singing PT regen.

[Woodberry]

Considering you get TP song here and there you dont need to worry at all abt TP.

I never use TP song, there is just no room for it. Foes and mages ballad is what I use my mana on.

[pandabearcat]

The reason why is TP efficiency.

Note I have 1.1 for all direct damage, as dragon kick only applies to direct attacks, not DoT ticks. All other buffs are "normalized" out.

TP efficiency of ToD: 25*10 + 20*1.1 = 272 per 80 = 3.4 p/tp
TP efficiency of FR : 20*6 + 100*1.1 = 230 per 80 = 2.875 p/tp
TP efficiency of ID : 180*1.1 = 198 per 70 = 2.83 p/tp

TP efficiency of BS (crit) > Twin > SP = 566.5 per 170 = 3.33 p/tp
...

etc.

Demo is obviously one of your highest tp efficiencies, at over 4.8 p/tp if counting only itself, at around 3.58 p/tp if counting combo.

ToD should be kept up as it is more efficient than your main combo.

Everything else is significantly worse.

[Kijimea]

@Naalya i dont see any better way to use PB other than that. It is obvious u cannot keep everything up, like buffs, plus ts and dk, apply dots while hammering SP 5 times. Even i lost DK / TS during PB Burst it still did quite a bunch of damage,only 2 PB lost buffs.
@Wood We dont have TP song as well for twintania but for all other turns. For twintania i burn less tp until conflag phase, in that phase i can fully use my rotation until dive bombs without going to 0 TP.

I am not into TP theorycrafting, i guess that makes only sense IF you run out of TP in a fight, if not the TP costs doesnt matter at all. I can only speak for myself that i can use all dots. Most of the fights require dodging and stuff which nets you some TP while ur not able to spend them. With TP song the while TP discussion is useless anyway. I think my DPS like 280-310 on Twintania before Dive Bomb phase is pretty nice. For me only Turn 4 is really a pain because of AOE and requires perfect timing of TP skill