Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[Reslin]

I read your examples and no where in any of my postings did I see myself crying "I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT" like you claimed...

All of my posts looked perfectly reasonable to me... and if you think those are examples of whining and begging then I think it's safe to say you have never been around people who actually do whine about something.

How do you not see it as "I want I want I want!" You literally said "We wanted we wanted" multiple times. We meaning 'the ff11 fans' which is you and several other people here. You essentially said exactly that. "I wanted I wanted." It is whining. You did say it to multiple people. You said it to multiple people after you already gave your opinion. You're bugging people about not sharing the same views as you and you continuously stating that exact same opinion in an attempt to drive it home. Like a kid who didn't get the toy he wanted. Your opinion was given why are you still giving it?

[Dale]

Here's an analogy I have over this debate. WoW was the first car and it made cars very popular. Older mmo design such as EQ and FF11 was a carriage driven by horses. No matter how much you improve on FF11 or Everquest's design it will still be a horse carriage which barely anyone rides anymore but there are a few people out there who still ride horses and horse carriages. Those are the people who still play those kind of games. Right now most people are driving cars and looking for updated car models.

Like I said, I've played WoW and don't see what the big deal is.

[Reslin]

Like I said, I've played WoW and don't see what the big deal is.

Some people have seen cars and don't see the big deal in cars. They prefer horses.

[Dale]

How do you not see it as "I want I want I want!" You literally said "We wanted we wanted" multiple times.

No. I used the word want in a single one of those posts you listed. And that was only because that was the wording the person I was responding to had used.

Like I said, if those were your best examples of me supposedly whining and begging I am not impressed.

[Devilray]

Why are people ignoring the fact the game uses (!) over NPC's head. WoW clone, end of discussion.

Edit: i have already made some posts in this thread, but FF14 took WoW concepts and upgraded them with better gfx. It is that simple, and trying to point out little differences to justify it not being a clone does not mean it is not a clone. The game could have come up with its own system of leveling or it could have been a FFXI clone, but they went total WoW on us. Even the producer admits wanting to use the model of WoW.

[Doo]

And those are even if it's valid or not to cry over. I'm guilty over it to over the housing prices. Though, I feel my whining was warranted but it WAS whining. See? I admitted I myself have done it.

Well two things

So quit crying and begging over housing as well as other things.

You are crying about others crying.

Got to take some of your own advice man.

Both = just as bad?

[Dale]

Some people have seen cars and don't see the big deal in cars. They prefer horses.

Yes but Wow is the horse. It's an old game who's time has come. The MMO market is never going to evolve or get better if games keep copying it.

[Reslin]

Well two things

So quit crying and begging over housing as well as other things.

You are crying about others crying.

Got to take some of your own advice man.

Both = just as bad?

Show me a recent post of me crying over the housing. Oh, wait. I stopped about two weeks ago. So come again? Also I'm not crying about others crying. I merely stated that is what he's doing. Not complaining about it he can cry as much as he wants. As can you. More power to you. You can do it until the cows turn blue and go home. I'm debating and providing evidence to his crying but at this point he's arguing over the semantics of his own wording refusing to believe that "Hoping, preferred, want, etc" are pretty much the exact same thing.

Yes but Wow is the horse. It's an old game who's time has come. The MMO market is never going to evolve or get better if games keep copying it.

No Dale. WoW is the car. It's the most up to date model we have. There's many people doing what you're doing in the car industry. All these cars are the same but just updated. We need some new form of transportation that's even better. Except no one has really produced the efficient means to do so. That's where the industry is at right now. FF14 is not an exact copy of WoW. It has some things that wow does not. It's just a different model of the original car wow put out. Even WoW has updated it's car model over the years.

[Devilray]

Yes but Wow is the horse. It's an old game who's time has come. The MMO market is never going to evolve or get better if games keep copying it.

So true....

[Gideon]

So true....

The shutup in the forums and use the only real power you have: your money. If you think something is too much like a previous game, dont buy it. No one cares about your opinion anymore...