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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Thats 233 times it's been checked, not 233 individual people.
    Your also forgetting all the other forums in the past about this same subject which has been many and some actually had much more attention and likes than this. This has been a repeated thread because it has been seeked for a long time now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Proof? Population of FFXI and it's peak compared to the population of FFXIV. Pretty compelling numbers leaning one way.
    Not really, many of the XI community that are even still playing MMO's at all are eather playing 14 or XI, many are playing 14 right now, some playing both. They take up a percentage of 14's community anyway, it would be interesting to know how many.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    No one would be crazy to change direction to please a potential, as you claim, thousands new players whilst riding roughshod over the 100s of thousands already playing.
    Lol I still don't understand why you would think anyone currently would stop playing because the game had more to do than just raid or que in for dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Or because it was terrible? Because there was no real road map or direction when SE decided to remake FFXIV altogether, which was decided in the first couple of months after release whilst it was still free to play. And that content that was actually added was a blatent overdone RNG time sink? To try and keep people payiing. Or you mean the XP parties that blitzed to 50? Hamlets? good idea, terribly implemented. Speed runs for the last chest? Segregated more players than it brought together due to strict job and build limitations imposed by the community to even see that content, same with primals.
    I'm not defending 1.0 in terms of it's flaws as back then I had many of my own issues with the game, but most of my problems back then were problems to do with lack of content then also, and the way the game didn't seem to run properly.

    Speed runs for the last chest, can't say I liked that, I can agree with you there, I actually prefer the new dungeons to the old, the old dungeons gave me a head ake, it's the outside world stuff that I liked and miss.
    I dunno about the strict job and build limitations imposed by the community, can't say I really agree, I made use of all the classes and jobs in the old 14 but in ARR I'm limited to only gearing a few jobs slowly so I feel much more limited in what jobs I can use. In the old FFXIV I was useing and gearing all my jobs in end game without any strict job limitations, every job had it's use even classes had more purpose back then, now classes are pretty much pointless. Those old primal fights were way more epic. I will never agree about exp partys being worse than the fate system for reasons said in previous posts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    SE HAVN'T abandoned there old player base, they still have FFXI running.
    LMAO, XI still exsists so they didn't abandon us, wtf haha, the XI we all love is long gone and I for one loved the first XIV because it was a whole new experience for me but now even that has been taken away, I feel very abandoned, I had massive hopes for FF14 that all got flushed down the toilet in ARR. That is two of my Fav games that have been destroyed for me, I put years of my time into both, pored my time into the old FF14 wanting nothing but the best for it and I don't even want to know how much money I've spent on them both. For what, for everything I loved about them to be taken away? I would like some of that back, yes, very much so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    FFXIV was made for a NEW playerbase, to make FF MMOs accesable to a different demographic of players than FFXI does
    XIV wasn't made originally to only appeal to a new playerbase that is why the original still had much of the same feel as XI did, Tanaka even said himself he wanted XI players to feel like they could also relate to the new game and it did feel that way untill yoshi tore it all to sheds instead of building onto it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Siimple reason, you can't please everyone and if FFXIV split into a multitude of directions all it would do is slow down content for everyone, making everyone unhappy for the sake of this crowd you think may magically appear.
    There all around you and there just as hopeful as I am, some maybe even more, the real question is will they stick around.

    I for one would prefer high quality content implemented slower over pointless content implemented at a fast pace.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 01-06-2014 at 01:19 AM.