Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW

[Vandark]

If you truly want ideas from FFXI in, why not try to suggest some in that would work with the game's set up right now? Should stop making unrealistic expectations and try to suggest something that would make sense to ARR's setup.

It's all very possible and I don't believe it's unrealistic, dungeons are just instances like everything else and I already said in previous pages if you read them how if done correctly they could work in ARR. Just because ARR is layed out for the dungeon + raiding type progression doesn't mean other kinds of progression can't be introduced into the same game, just because you lack creativity doesn't make it an unrealistic expectation at all.

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If you didn't understand my point, which btw you clearly missed completely then maybe you shouldn't be in this discussion. I wasn't trying to turn this into a debate about the history of Samurais. I just don't think this was the right direction for Final Fantasy.

[Velhart]

It's all very possible and I don't believe it's unrealistic, dungeons are just instances like everything else and I already said in previous pages if you read them how if done correctly they could work in ARR. Just because ARR is layed out for the dungeon + raiding type progression doesn't mean other kinds of progression can't be introduced into the same game, just because you lack creativity doesn't make it an unrealistic expectation at all.

Instead of nit picking posts, you really should just take them as it is. I don't believe people want to neglect ideas from FFXI because it is FFXI, there are good ideas that can come from it. However, a lot that people suggest are things to change the foundation of the game, which will never happen, especially with the success track this game is currently holding. SE has absolutely no obligation to please the FFXI crowd, and anything they do should be considered a luxury. Even during development of 1.xx with Tanaka, he said himself he wanted FFXIV to be different from FFXI to the point that you preferred one or the other. Hell, they even offered a subscription model that discounted both FFXI/FFXIV if you had both activated. As you know, 1.xx failed, however, the idea of preference didn't change. People who enjoy the Everquest, older style of game still have FFXI to play and it is still pumping content. Or you can go on the modern, WoW-like concept and play ARR. Don't pretend SE owes anything to the FFXI community through FFXIV, because you are dead wrong there.

I know this may sound crazy, but do you believe that people may actually like a vertical progressive game that is done through dungeon and raiding? Updating itself every few months? SE just within 2.0 and 2.1 has offered a ton of ways to progress your character and their job. Dungeons, raid, trial fights, treasure hunting, dailies. I actually believe SE has given more to this game in a short period of time than I believed they would. Way I see it, I think there is quite a variety of content in this game, it is simply variety you do not like.

You are free to nitpick and take apart my sentences if you like and twist them around to work in your favor, seems to be a common thing you are doing in this thread. Just know there is a difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism.

[Arkune]

I know this may sound crazy, but do you believe that people may actually like a vertical progressive game that is done through dungeon and raiding? Updating itself every few months?

when i check the Forums and reading the stuff People write in Linkshell, they are sick of the Elitism in this game already. This is the proof that Ilevel also known as Gearscore create this Kind of Community this is exactly the reason why everyone always cares about hisself when you think farther then to the door which is closed.

Ist not the MMO community they said "hey lets not be helpfull" its the way MMO's turned in, here is a short example outside of XI.

WoW Classic the People builded up a Raid for the first raids and Did it as often as they could do and no1 complained when someone hasnt the best Gear, no1 cared if they had Green Gear and Weapons, no1 where asking for Blue or Violet Equipment and WoW had a stable Community and also People helped People. After releasing the expansions and adding the first stage of Gearscores it turned into this elitism Community. When you log into WoW now with MoP you will see the same Community like we have in XIV now there is not even any difference anymore.

When ARR came out some of the legacys had already some Darklight Pieces, all they did was farming the last Pieces they were missing, and worked towords they first relic and found out how to Speed run things, with the beginning of easy obtainable Gear the requirements to join such a Group got higher to join after the first week "Full Darklight only" after the 3 Week "only with Relic" and after 4 Weeks "only with Relic+1 + DL"

If it is the way that People want (which doesnt seems so) then Keep up with vertical Progression and Ilevel System

ps.: when you going to check EQN and the roundtable its not anymore the minority that wishes some more "harder" and "Long Lasting" aspcets back to the current MMO's sure no1 knows how much People clicked there but i think its not that less because EQN isnt unknown and had already alot interviews on certain Game sites.

Just my 2 Cents