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    Franklin4337's Avatar
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    Franklin Disarray
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Well that's great! more emnity is going to be really useful as we won't have to just stand about spamming the agro combo, We can use a bit of our strength to inflict some hurt.
    I'm looking forward to the update and as far as I'm concerned it can't come soon enough.
    Ps I love the people moaning that have pld avatars, go home paladins you need a new job.
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    TaneshimaPopura's Avatar
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    Taneshima Popura
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    Carbuncle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Franklin4337 View Post
    Well that's great! more emnity is going to be really useful as we won't have to just stand about spamming the agro combo, We can use a bit of our strength to inflict some hurt.
    I'm looking forward to the update and as far as I'm concerned it can't come soon enough.
    Ps I love the people moaning that have pld avatars, go home paladins you need a new job.

    Hey, my current Avatar is on a Paladin =(. Oh btw the thread tag rules! " Paladin tears of Envy, Warriors tears of delight"
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    Jack Riot
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Honestly, as a warrior main, im quite disappointed that this is the route they chose to take. I was hoping that instead of increased damage mitigation, we would be looking at increased damage potency, with increased self healing capabilities. That way the two tank jobs would have different roles. One would be a high defense, one would be higher dps. Either way, its still going to be good for the class. It will make surviving easier, as well as end warrior discrimination. Still, I wish they chose to go the other way.
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Franklin4337 View Post
    Well that's great! more emnity is going to be really useful as we won't have to just stand about spamming the agro combo, We can use a bit of our strength to inflict some hurt.
    I'm looking forward to the update and as far as I'm concerned it can't come soon enough.
    Ps I love the people moaning that have pld avatars, go home paladins you need a new job.
    Yeah idk what they were thinking giving overpower more enmity. Before I even got my relic I was able to hold huge packs just using it with relic'd +1'd dds going all out aoe. Is there an issue with wars holding group hate in coil or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    What math? A retarded idiot can say what the effect of these changes will have on a WAR in an actual tanking situation(if they ever really tanked on WAR...). Considering he was doing "ok" when played right, these changes completely blew him out of proportion. I was expecting tweaks to already existing buffs and changes to self heals etc. Not the whole class and their "way of tanking" being changed, while still maintaining almost all the "base" benefits he had. All he lost was self heal capabilities, which weren't his "omg I can't tank w/o these" skills anyway and instead he gained passive buffs and overall damage mitigation which puts him ahead quite a bit.
    go home paladins you need a new job.
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    Last edited by Amyas; 11-21-2013 at 03:16 AM.

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    TaneshimaPopura's Avatar
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    Taneshima Popura
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    Well with current changes a well timed and played Warrior should get more active eHP than Paladin. It still doesn't clear the fact that Paladin have better passive eHP via Shield Oath + Block. Not to mention for all it's worth Defiance is still a Post DMG mitigation which is by and far always inferior to Pre DMG mitigation. And Thrill of Battle is just a damage buffer. Healers still have to heal the missing HP when it is gone for it to be useful for the remainder of it's duration, and Thrill of Battle does no justice in making heals heal that extra buffer with the same amount, your healer's HPS is still static.

    People just need to start looking that Warriors bring a more viable tank debuff and so does Paladin, both have unique skills for specific conditions hence both are welcomed to a party to minimize party damage taken.

    And as many have stated Holmgang is being at the brink of mortality whilst Hallowed Ground is literally invulnerable. Which is also good in a way since healer won't have to heal hence won't generate any more threat and easier to notice. Whereas Holmgang though the warrior may not die, a healer will still panic and attempt to heal him and he still gets drop to 1 HP instead of waiting for some time to later to heal him to maximize Holmgang's effect. Do note that Holmgang you still take damage you just won't fall over until it is over.
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    Last edited by TaneshimaPopura; 11-21-2013 at 02:47 AM. Reason: 1000 char

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    Shujinkou's Avatar
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    Shu Jinkou
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I will be a BEAST after patch 2.1.
    So glad I stuck with WAR :]
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    Maqaqa's Avatar
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    M'aqaqa Qimi
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shujinkou View Post
    I will be a BEAST after patch 2.1.
    So glad I stuck with WAR :]
    HIGHFIVE!!!
    /roar

    <---- Why this forum thinks im a gladiator? >.<
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    Gamemako's Avatar
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Well with current changes a well timed and played Warrior should get more active eHP than Paladin.
    Technically, as an absolute max, WAR would have 123% burst eHP bonus (IB + Vengeance + ToB) compared to PLD's 108% (Rampart + Sentinel). Both of these numbers aren't really valuable on their face. Sephirah, however, was just talking about the +25% bonus to HP, which exists to compare exactly to Shield Oath's 25% eHP boost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    <---- Why this forum thinks im a gladiator? >.<
    You set it as your primary job. You can go back into your profile settings to change it to something else.
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    Bethor's Avatar
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    Bethor Bismarck
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    HIGHFIVE!!!
    /roar

    <---- Why this forum thinks im a gladiator? >.<
    Because.... it only shows classes and not jobs I guess! Har har.

    Edit: Oh shit, wait. you're right its bugged. I'm an Archer with a crown haha
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    Seriously Why?

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    Raifu Shirudo
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    Lamia
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Thanks based Yoshi-P! Glad I kept rolling with WAR.
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