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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    I've seen enough places, especially on Titan, where 8 directions only is not enough to get you to safety. In most circumstances on Titan, yes you can. Just move in X direction. But sometimes you have to move in a direction that doesn't correspond to one of those 8. Meaning you have to turn them move, or move twice, which often means you get hit.
    On keyboard, hit A+S to go down left, at a different angle than just hitting S. Timing how you hit A+S or when you release A and keep holding S adjusts your angle as you run. I find doing this gives me extremely good control over the angle and direction I am to run at. Additionally when holding down A+S you can spin camera with numeric keypad. So sometimes I do:

    A, tinniest of pressure-time-pause, +S (now getting good angle to run at), then press 2->3->6 on keypad to spin camera to perfect angle, and flip fingers to W+A to run forward with camera now pointing in the direction I want.

    I do this for every battle up to and including Titan HM, and can 100% say that direction control is not even on the list of issues. I think maybe some experimentation in using WASD + Number Keypad will help you see how powerful this combo is.

    (You can also throw in an 'autorun' (I map to R) if you need to use fingers for something else, then un-auto-run to keep moving. Great if you need a moment to lift finger up to hit another key)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Where did I say can't? Reread what Alhanelem posted that you responded to. "Mouse+keyboard greatly eases the process of moving to dodge." It does. Just because something can be done, does not mean it cannot be done better or easier. Like it or not, the game was not designed with Keyboard only in mind. Can it be done? Sure, but this is much different from the Gamepad vs Keyboard/Mouse argument people like to bring up. The differences are much larger, and clearer.
    Sorry it was Kaedan94who said it was not possible.

    Anyway it comes down to personal preference I find it easier to dodge stuff with just keyboard and legacy controls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    You try avoiding every Weight of the Land, Landslide, and Bomb Boulder in Titan Hard mode with using nothing but keyboard for movement and camera control. It's simply not possible.
    I don't mean to sound contrary, but I do this all the time... 100% of the time with keyboard. Nary a mouse in sight, and with no difficulty at all (except for lag of course). On good lag days I don't even get hit o.o
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    okay um, you are all arguing PC controls, if you read the OP they asked for Keyboard controls on the PS3, which from everything I can find are clearly missing. if they were too give the PS3 the same Keyboard/Mouse controls the PC has it would give the OP exactly what they want since everything as far as I know can be controlled without the mouse.(though controlling the camera with the keyboard feels a bit lacking to me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    I know what it takes to make the movements. Also, you cannot get perfect angles when turning with the keyboard, unless you turn the turn speed way down, digital just does not compare to analog in this department.
    Well, no, you can't get perfect angles with the keyboard... I dare say I could not get perfect angles with a mouse either... I would not try to draw a French curve with either ^.^;; But I have yet to experience anything in game that requires any more precision than one can get with the keyboard. I would go so far as to say the level of control with the keyboard for 'angles' so is good that it is not even on the list of issues I have regarding control.

    Which is why I persist... mayhap it's just a matter of practice or adjusting settings or fingers to accomplish this, or experiment with different layouts... because I assure you, the level of control is fine enough to avoid everything in Titan with the greatest of ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    okay um, you are all arguing PC controls, if you read the OP they asked for Keyboard controls on the PS3, which from everything I can find are clearly missing. if they were too give the PS3 the same Keyboard/Mouse controls the PC has it would give the OP exactly what they want since everything as far as I know can be controlled without the mouse.(though controlling the camera with the keyboard feels a bit lacking to me)
    I guess I misread the op. Yoshi said in an interview that the ps3 wont be getting full keyboard mouse controls due to memory limits on the ps3. The ps4 will have them tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lii View Post
    I guess I misread the op. Yoshi said in an interview that the ps3 wont be getting full keyboard mouse controls due to memory limits on the ps3. The ps4 will have them tho.
    wow they must be pushing the memory of the PS3 if they think they need to do this. very disappointing because while the controller controls are really good by leaving out the keyboard mouse controls they essentially cripple that version of the game(yes I know they lowered the framerate but I dont see that as actual crippling)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    okay um, you are all arguing PC controls, if you read the OP they asked for Keyboard controls on the PS3, which from everything I can find are clearly missing. if they were too give the PS3 the same Keyboard/Mouse controls the PC has it would give the OP exactly what they want since everything as far as I know can be controlled without the mouse.(though controlling the camera with the keyboard feels a bit lacking to me)
    While I referenced, the PS3, I was merely stating the current improvements in the game. I am looking for PC based keyboard only controls similar if not the same to 1.0. Currently the biggest hindrance for this is the clickable UI and the awkward bindings available compared to FFXI/1.0 style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    I would love a Keyboard only for PC/
    As much as I set it up, I'm finding myself still using mouse and keyboard.

    Out of all games I've played I think FFXI has the best keyboard control. Why they fell off on this I don't get it.
    Agreed with this. I've been trying to find a way to set the keyboard up to feel like XI, but so far haven't had a comfortable keyboard setup that keeps me from using them mouse. Would really like the option to have XI keyboard controls in XIV
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    FFXI didn't have the ability to jump either. And the game mechanics didn't really require you to be moving all the time constantly like this game's fight mechanics.

    KB + Mouse is the most effecient way to play, hands down. I can understand if you are physically disabled why you would want to do this, but you could opt for a different approach all together. Get a replacement for both, like this
    http://gizmodo.com/307029/belkin-n52...+handed-gaming

    Which is designed to allow you to play with one hand without the KB and mouse.
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