Keyboard Only

[Ethari]

I feel that by not implementing it, they may be missing a significant number of users that would prefer this option. Keyboard only controls definitely felt more precise for me in the past and kept all of my controls centralized.

Edit: English is hard.

[Alhanelem]

I feel that by not implementing it, they may be missing a significant number of users that would prefer this option. Keyboard only controls definitely felt more precise for me in the past and kept all of my controls centralized.

Edit: English is hard.

Nobody is not going to play just because there's no keyboard only option.

The only reason anybody wants it is because they're used to it from FFXI. When they get used to FFXIV's controls, they usually realize how much better they really are. I used keyboard only in FFXI because it was either that or gamepad- not because I didn't want to use the mouse.

Mouse and keyboard > keyboard only. Simple reason: Keyboard has no analog input, therefore no precise control over camera and movement. The only reason we used keyboard only in FFXI is because the mouse input was awful in that game, rendering the mouse unusable.

They most certainly are not losing customers over this.

[Kewitt]

Why when I'm running from mob to mob, do I care about being able to look at a water fall.
Why do I care how I turn.

The mouse was always there for things like that in FFXI.. But to 99% of thing other then look at the view. You didn't need the mouse.

Run up to mob, Lock on mob (Fix camera), Unlock mob (tap a key 2 times). Move left and right, in and out.
Key thing here is... one hand controlling Movement very very nicely in that I can press Left right and up and down, Camera control quick and easy on arrow keys with thumb.
2nd hand free for all actions.

It's supper hard to use Alt + key or Control + key when one hand is hovering over 1/2 the keyboard.


I don't know how many times I've missed moving out of AOE because I was looking at where my mouse was pointing well trying to move.

As for the comment on more sensitive control.
Please point out one point when this matter outside of looking at scenery.
Post beta 3 your POS is a single point at the center of your character, and there is never a time when your feet need to be positioned perfectly.

[Kaedan94]

stuff

Keyboard camera and movement in regards to turning is incredibly slow.

As for the comment on more sensitive control.
Please point out one point when this matter outside of looking at scenery.

Every. Single. Ground. Effect. In. The. Game.

You try avoiding every Weight of the Land, Landslide, and Bomb Boulder in Titan Hard mode with using nothing but keyboard for movement and camera control. It's simply not possible.

[Asiaine]

You try avoiding every Weight of the Land, Landslide, and Bomb Boulder in Titan Hard mode with using nothing but keyboard for movement and camera control. It's simply not possible.

I don't mean to sound contrary, but I do this all the time... 100% of the time with keyboard. Nary a mouse in sight, and with no difficulty at all (except for lag of course). On good lag days I don't even get hit o.o

[Ethari]

I'm not saying that this option is preventing people from playing the game, hell I'm still playing like crazy. I'm just saying I would like the option to select keyboard only as it was implemented in 1.0. I think it's more a personal preference than one being better than the other.

[Alhanelem]

I think it's more a personal preference than one being better than the other.

No, there are very technical, physical reasons why one is better than the other. It boils down to what a keyboard by itself is physically incapable of. Adding a mouse to the keyboard gives you much more sensitive control over your camera and movement. If you want to "prefer" inferior controls, that's fine, but a keyboard without a mouse is like a sandwich without bread- the fact remains there are limitations that exist which can be overcome by the mouse. Honestly, if you're going to play keyboard only, it would probably be better if you used a gamepad.

This is a very vague and nontechnical response.

There's nothing vague or nontechnical about it.

A keyboard by itself is incapable of analog movement- something critical to good control in a 3D world. A mouse specifically exists to resolve this deficiency. This is not a preference- it is a fact. A mouse in combination with the keyboard provides undeniably superior control. How much more technical can I get?

A key on a keyboard is capable of two states: Pressed and not pressed. Specifically relating to movement, you can move in 8 directions- to go between those directions, you have to press/not press other keys (at which point you're near the ghosting limit on keyboard keys, making it difficult to perform actions in certain circumstances unless you release one of the movement/camera keys for a brief moment). By contrast, a mouse does not control movement with buttons with on and off states, it continually is tracking its position relative to a surface and relaying that information to the system. Subtle movements produce subtle results and large movements produce large results- there is infinite variation, where movmeent with the keyboard is constrained. There, is that techncial enough for you?

In playing FFXI, you MUST have noticed how difficult it was to make small adjustments to the camera and movement. even pressing and releasing a key as fast as possible often could make the camera move more than you wanted it to.

Again, i'm telling you. You don't prefer keyboard only, you're simply used to it. Get used to mouse and keyboard, and you'll eventually realize how much better it is. (Note: This I consider very different from mouse + keyboard vs gamepad: That is much more a matter of preference- the gamepad is in some way capable of doing everything you can do with the keyboard, there's just a different style to it, aside from chatting)

I understand that you prefer the mouse over the keyboard, but I'm saying I would like an officially supported option.

There already is an officially supported option: Rebind the keys.

[Ethari]

No, there are very technical, physical reasons why one is better than the other. It boils down to what a keyboard by itself is physically incapable of. Adding a mouse to the keyboard gives you much more sensitive control over your camera and movement. If you want to "prefer" inferior controls, that's fine, but a keyboard without a mouse is like a sandwich without bread- the fact remains there are limitations that exist which can be overcome by the mouse. Honestly, if you're going to play keyboard only, it would probably be better if you used a gamepad.

This is a very vague and nontechnical response. I understand that you prefer the mouse over the keyboard, but I'm saying I would like an officially supported option. I'm not saying that they should do away with the way that you play the game.

[Welsper59]

This is a very vague and nontechnical response. I understand that you prefer the mouse over the keyboard, but I'm saying I would like an officially supported option. I'm not saying that they should do away with the way that you play the game.

What's missing from the keyboard-only play currently? Rebinding should offer you access to everything... I think.

[Jynx]

This thread needs more people telling others that there prefered control style is "Wrong"