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    Tamianth's Avatar
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    Kitai Kat
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    Bard Lv 50

    Weaver help, please?

    Ok, wondering if some kind, knowledgeable soul can help me. Ive been struggling to HQ linen cloth for a while now. I am lvl 42 weaver, and my old routine to HQ stuff - inner quiet > waste not > steady hand > standard touchx5 > standard synth - just doesnt seem to work on stuff this high lvl and above. Can anyone please kindly tell me if there is a new rotation I should use for linen cloth and above? Also I expect I will need a new one for making the actual clothing too, if inner quiet > steady hand> standard touchx5 > rumination > waste not > steady hand > standard synth doesnt work after a certain lvl either.

    Hoping for some advice, please
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Try this ...

    Inner Quiet, Steady Hand, Waste Not, 5 Hasty Touch, Manipulation, Steady Hand, Waste Not, 4 Hasty Touch, your best touch that CP allows, Synthesis. At 42 you should have sufficient CP for this, if not, upgrade your CP jewelry.
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    C'saka Kahjai
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    On the two servers I have played on, the market prices for HQ Flax are not much higher than the prices for NQ Flax (maybe 5-25% more, depending on the day). I got through the initial stages of linen weaving by using HQ Flax and then mixing HQ/NQ Flax until I could make HQ Linen Thread with NQ materials.

    Everyone seems to have their own preferred method of crafting, but I would suggest using Great Strides whenever you use Standard Touch or Advanced Touch.

    GS => ST increases quality by 250% for 70 CP and 10 durability (5 under Waste Not).
    ST => ST increases quality by 250% for 76 CP and 20 durability (10 under Waste Not).

    The only time GS => ST is not strictly better than 2x ST is when you use GS during a Good or Excellent state, so don't do that.

    If you modify the rotation you outlined above to incorporate GS it might look something like:

    IQ => GS => SH => WN => ST => GS => ST => ST

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    Last edited by Kakure; 10-30-2013 at 10:12 AM.

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    This gives you 625% progress, the same as 5x ST. It costs 12 fewer CP and it only uses 15 durability, giving you three additional actions (two touches if you can finish in one synthesis).

    Another possible rotation for 40-durability components using Great Strides:

    IQ => GS => SH => ST => GS => ST => GS => ST => Synth

    Great Strides shines even more for 60- to 80-durability items because synthesis actions allow you to fish for Good or Excellent states to maximize the effect of your touches. If you are crafting a 40-durability item and use Great Strides, most of the time you are going to use a touch action next turn regardless of the item state. If you are crafting a pair of pants, you might use IQ => GS => SH and then, if the item state is Normal, use a synthesis action and hope the state changes to Good or Excellent for your double-quality Standard Touch. Just make sure not to allow the Great Strides buff to expire unused.

    (edited because I had the wrong efficiency number for Standard Touch)
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    Last edited by Kakure; 10-30-2013 at 10:13 AM.

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    Vortok Mercadia
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    Early in a craft you just want successful touches to boost your control via Inner Quiet before using Great Strides once or twice.

    A rotation I use for the 40 Durability crafts when I don't want to take extra steps using Hasty Touch is:

    Comfort Zone (if you have it) > IQ > SH II > WN.

    Basic Touch 3 times while SH and WN are active (using Tricks of the Trade where possible). Should put you at 25 Durability. I wouldn't bother using ST on Good condition here unless you're certain it'll get you 100% quality.

    From there, GS > SH > ST (downgrade if CP is tight). GS again, and then spend the rest of your CP fishing for Good/Excellent before finishing with your best touch. Depending on your CP/TotT procs you may only have enough for an Observe or two. If you have more, you could instead refresh Steady Hand/Great Strides before using Observe to get an extra step or two of fishing for a condition proc.
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    I used to mix and match 1 NQ to 1 HQ so I can HQ the base linen yarn. That allows me to mix and match linen yarns to HQ the linen cloth. To make the end product, I use 2 HQ components and 1 NQ component so I don't use up all my HQ and still be able to HQ the item. That was before I got Steady Hands II. Now I just gamble with Hasty Touch 80% till the last few hundreds, mend, steady hands again, touches with great strides mix. HQ level-appropriated Accessories help a ton.
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    Souma Kisa
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 50
    Inner Quiet
    Steady Hand II
    Manipulation
    Hasty Touch x4
    30/40 durability

    Waste Not
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch x3
    15/40 durability

    Steady Hand (optional if you have enough CP; so you don't fail Byregot's or Basic Synthesis)
    Innovation (optional)
    Great Strides
    Byregot's Blessing
    5/40 durability

    Careful Synthesis/Basic Synthesis

    100% guaranteed HQ on materials.

    Note: Requires Lv50 CRP, Lv37 CUL, and Lv50 GSM (optional)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    Inner Quiet
    Steady Hand II
    Manipulation
    Hasty Touch x4

    Waste Not
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch x3

    Innovation (optional)
    Great Strides
    Byregot's Blessing

    Careful Synthesis/Basic Synthesis

    100% guaranteed HQ on materials.

    Note: Requires Lv50 CRP, Lv37 CUL, and Lv50 GSM (optional)
    What if you fail all 7 Hasty Touch....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    What if you fail all 7 Hasty Touch....
    Unlikely with Steady Hand II.

    Although it did happen to me once, but at that point I already had already made multiple HQ stacks of Electrum Ingot, Boar Leather, Undyed Wool, etc. so it didn't really matter.

    But all you really need is 5 successful Hasty Touches to get 100% with Byregot's (4 with Innovation) for 100%. Miss one of those 4-5 and you'll still get to around 84%. My method gives you 7 tries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    Unlikely with Steady Hand II.

    Although it did happen to me once, but at that point I already had already made multiple HQ stacks of Electrum Ingot, Boar Leather, Undyed Wool, etc. so it didn't really matter.

    But all you really need is 5 successful Hasty Touches to get 100% with Byregot's (4 with Innovation) for 100%. Miss one of those 4-5 and you'll still get to around 84%. My method gives you 7 tries.
    Hmm ok, I'm working on getting Byregot so I don't know how much it adds yet. Getting Ingenuity II and Innovation are next on my list. Should make leveling other crafts a lot easier than spamming Steady Hands II boosted Hasty Touch like I am now.
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