10 steps to being a bad PLD

[Devaking55]

After a while of DPS not following the marks you kinda just go to hell with it and not bother anymore :/

This.
I don't use rage of halone combo after a provoke I just rage of halone, at lvl 30 works well enough, but yes I've seen every bad paladin do everything mentioned here. Until I saw the post about riot blade - flash spam....I hit my head on my desk lol god some people are bad xD

[Viridiana]

Until I saw the post about riot blade - flash spam....I hit my head on my desk lol god some people are bad xD

Yeah, I've seen Fast->Savage->Shield Lob->Shield Lob->Savage->Lob. . .

I've also seen people try to MT Ifrit using literally nothing but Rage.

Fun times all around.

[Arkista]

After a while of DPS not following the marks you kinda just go to hell with it and not bother anymore :/

I got PLD to 50 Monday and started doing AK cause I had almost all Hopelite gear and I marked mobs 1-3 and the DPS still would do there own thing its BS so I stopped wasting time and added marking1 to Shield Lob.

Also people who have Relic+1 should know better.

[TeddyXIV]

#15 Using flash before combat. /facepalm

[Grailer]

I got PLD to 50 Monday and started doing AK cause I had almost all Hopelite gear and I marked mobs 1-3 and the DPS still would do there own thing its BS so I stopped wasting time and added marking1 to Shield Lob.

Also people who have Relic+1 should know better.

They don't because they spam fates for 50 lvls , most don't even know what threat is . They think its the tanks fault they got agro .

Maybe one day they roll a tank and go ahhh now I get it .

[BillySlippyfists]

I got PLD to 50 Monday and started doing AK cause I had almost all Hopelite gear and I marked mobs 1-3 and the DPS still would do there own thing its BS so I stopped wasting time and added marking1 to Shield Lob.

Also people who have Relic+1 should know better.

Had the exact same thing happen to me the other night. When the dps grabbed aggro away from me by attacking a different mob than what was marked they called me a bad tank X) yea..... I said ok...later guys and I just left DF

[Nova_Dresden]

I'll add a 14th: eating avoidable casts. In AK, the first boss regularly casts Void Thunder that can be dodged by just running behind the boss during the ability's 3 second cast, and I've seen *so* many PLD tanks just eat it because "the healer will take care of it" (it's the only major source of tank damage in the entire fight; if you avoid that and interrupt Mind Melt, like the tank *should* be since it's on a 30 sec CD just like Brutal Swing, the healer can DPS pretty much the *entire* fight).

For PLD just don't use Spirits Within during the rotation. First Thunder you can hit spirits off the GCD, silence and interrupt, then keep going with your rotation. Next Thunder use Shield Bash, but if your GCD locked then run behind and LoS the spell. You can NEVER trust positioning or casting bars on this game with the horrible latency issues some players have. Some moves I'm so far away from the red-marked area on the ground that I may as well be in Narnia, but the game still thinks I'm standing in front of the boss like an idiot because of latency. I'll take my chances with instant stuns/silences instead of hoping the server knows I'm actually standing behind him.

I got PLD to 50 Monday and started doing AK cause I had almost all Hopelite gear and I marked mobs 1-3 and the DPS still would do there own thing its BS so I stopped wasting time and added marking1 to Shield Lob.

Also people who have Relic+1 should know better.

All DPS should know to gauge their tank's gear and damage accordingly. New tanks in AF with no relic will almost never be able to keep hate against you spamming AoEs, spreading DoTs everywhere, or single-target killing the wrong marked target.

[JeTaisNoobie]

Do add in

12) Doze off while pulling a large group

I have done that personally. HAHA!

[saber_alter]

i don't bother with marking targets. its not a great idea, but most of the people i run with now are relic black mages/bards that spam AOE until something dies.

pretty pointless to target what you want to kill first when your killing all targets at once.

another step to being a bad tank: you eat AOEs. all of them.

[Kitru]

another step to being a bad tank: you eat AOEs. all of them.

I'll add a 14th: eating avoidable casts. In AK, the first boss regularly casts Void Thunder that can be dodged by just running behind the boss during the ability's 3 second cast, and I've seen *so* many PLD tanks just eat it because "the healer will take care of it" (it's the only major source of tank damage in the entire fight; if you avoid that and interrupt Mind Melt, like the tank *should* be since it's on a 30 sec CD just like Brutal Swing, the healer can DPS pretty much the *entire* fight). The blob boss in WP is the same: it casts Fire, which just so happens to be 90% of the damage the tank will take, and it can be completely avoided by just running behind the boss.

As an addendum to this, I've met *so* many PLDs that think that they're supposed to stun these very same casts rather than just avoid them by running for half of a second and then proceed to just eat the damage if they're GCD locked and can't stun. There's no reason to stun a cast that is single target that you can just run behind the boss to avoid, with no issue, especially since, as soon as the cast finishes, while the effect is animating, you can run back to where you were and the boss won't have moved at all so even the mDPS can't complain at you. Thankfully, most of the WARs I end up dealing with have learned the secret of avoiding casts rather than thinking that everything is supposed to be interrupted, largely because they actually have to dodge said casts to avoid them rather than having a stun on standby at all times.