Feelings on Dex?! (Gryphonskin accessories)

[Gamemako]

Last I checked, I could not find anyone who has done the legwork on figuring out how much Dexterity affects parry chance compared to the Parry secondary stat. There have been theories, but not good data to back it up. I don't think anyone will have the answer you really want.

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Sorry if I sound like a dick but even increasing DEX would only increase the potential for you to Parry something - lowering/losing Parry for DEX is counter intuitive.

This will depend on the relative gains from Dex to Parry.

(Also, Gryphonskin can be melded with VIT and Parry, if you didn't know.)

[C-croft]

Last I checked, I could not find anyone who has done the legwork on figuring out how much Dexterity affects parry chance compared to the Parry secondary stat. There have been theories, but not good data to back it up. I don't think anyone will have the answer you really want.

But I believe you have told me that this is worthless, no? Along with many others, not just you of course. And not just to me, just DEX is worthless in general.

[Gamemako]

But I believe you have told me that this is worthless, no?

With respect to bonus points, there's no way you can catch up -- you should put those points into STR or VIT. Secondary stats are not nearly as valuable as primary stats -- if you choose between +5 STR and +10 DTR, you'd be a damn fool to take the latter. If 1 DEX is worth 1 Parry, then you're still effectively comparing secondary to primary stats because you don't care about the primary portion. However, Gryphonskin or Rose Gold will both have the same VIT, either by melds or natively.

[Faeron]

With respect to bonus points, there's no way you can catch up -- you should put those points into STR or VIT. Secondary stats are not nearly as valuable as primary stats -- if you choose between +5 STR and +10 DTR, you'd be a damn fool to take the latter. If 1 DEX is worth 1 Parry, then you're still effectively comparing secondary to primary stats because you don't care about the primary portion. However, Gryphonskin or Rose Gold will both have the same VIT, either by melds or natively.

But with Gryphonskin you pick up a ton of str and dex, while maintaining VIT and only losing a few parry.

[Faeron]

@Gamemako

These are my exact points, has anyone tested this?

Tanks are best to stack VIT in the allotment, and Parry/Accuracy (PLD) in their melds - Dexterity is essentially a dead end and a waste to your eHP; DEX only effects rate not how much is reduced - that relies entirely on your STR - STR does not scale high enough to make it worth stacking DEX & STR over VIT & STR.

By no means am I saying to disregard VIT, but rather should the specific accessories mentioned be considered? The main stats surpass darklight. Aside from that, does +32 dex > -13 parry? Dex affects block rate and parry rate (even though it does not appear on the character screen).

[Dhex]

If you've got the time and money to dump into Gryphonskin melding VIT/DET/Crit/Parry then go ahead - but doing it specifically for the DEX is stupid. The gain of having all these stats would be hardly worth the time, money, or effort. You can dance around this as an idea but what's the point? Are you trying to min/max - or is it you want a set you can use across all your DoW?

[Gamemako]

But with Gryphonskin you pick up a ton of str and dex, while maintaining VIT and only losing a few parry.

You would meld STR onto Rose Gold rings otherwise. It's really just the difference of DEX&SSPD on Gryphonskin versus any one other stat of your choosing on Rose Gold.

If you've got the time and money to dump into Gryphonskin melding VIT/DET/Crit/Parry then go ahead - but doing it specifically for the DEX is stupid.

So you would just forgo +Parry because "it's stupid"? If Dexterity affects parry rates, then there's really no difference. Both ilvl70 rings cost the same number of philo items.

[Dhex]

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I ask because spending all this money on a set that is marginally better after a significant amount of melding is going to leave him dissatisfied - the gains aren't as huge as you think.

Just swapping your 30 point allotment around can show you you'd need more than just 30~ stats to make a change (regarding DEX/Parry/DET) - for example every 10.5 (alternating tiers basically 10/11) Skill Speed is .01 off your GCD for example. Thal's balls that's 100 SS for .1 ~ all MNK should stack that SS for posterity!

The same applies for DEX 29/30 DEX ~ 1/2% or +.01 to that there Parry Rating. If it's worth doing it to you - go ahead. Most people will look at that and scoff - as I do - because it's stupid to sink so much effort into something that will not only cost you time/effort/money/patience but it will likely be rendered obsolete when new content gear and new craft gear get's added a few months down the road.

It may cost the same Philo - but it costs gil or time to get Materia. It takes having a craft or a friend with a craft and the catalysts - and for what? Marginal increases - a more even distribution of stats across a wider range of stats. Minimal or unnoticeable gains.

I'm not going to spend the time to build up a set like this; but kudos to the OP or yourself if you do. (: