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  1. #21
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepsixeden View Post
    As long as you command your summon to Obey at least once in its life time, it will never use any other skill besides its first basic attack until you command it to do so!
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.
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  2. #22
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Yeah, never had an issue with her not using it in a few seconds after clicking Contagion. Still find it a waste given that scenario. I'd rather take the time to quickly recast everything then waste that fester. Just not one to gamble on a 15% chance.
    I don't think you understand what I wrote.

    You only bane once, you CAN only bane once, there is literally no way to "waste" a bane unless you're somehow spamming it 10 seconds after your first bane.

    I merely provide 2 spots in the rotation where it would make sense to bane, depending on when garuda decides to contagion.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.
    I have NEVER had an issue like the one you describe.
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  4. #24
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    Trance Paradinefellow
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.


    I never had this issue. Garuda always stays with obey with me after Contagion.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.
    The only way Garuda will use Aerial Slash after you command her to Contagion, is if she was in Sic mode prior to Contagion. I've _never_ seen Garuda default back to Sic after a manual Contagion if she had been previously given the Obey order. The only time Obey will reset to Sic is AFAIK on a newly summoned Garuda or zoning into a new instance.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.


    except... you're actually wrong, after watching your own video, your pet was NOT on obey, it was on "guard" the whole time, check the video again at 2 minutes, the pet did not attack prior to contagion.

    seriously, this kind of stuff is really easy to test, just go out of mor dhona and look for a mob or something, press OBEY, then contagion, then tell me if your pet still casts aerial slash.


    edit: amfg, I've been cringing the whole time cause I couldn't reply on this post and people missed that the garuda in the video was on "guard" instead of obey (cause there's a daily post limit)
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    Last edited by glim; 10-31-2013 at 04:11 AM.

  7. #27
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    Kyronex Zero
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.
    How are you in coil and not know how Obey works? No, it doesn't revert back to Sic after Congtagion unless she was already in Sic mode before you casted it.
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  8. #28
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by glim View Post
    except... you're actually wrong, after watching your own video, your pet was NOT on obey, it was on "guard" the whole time, check the video again at 2 minutes, the pet did not attack prior to contagion.

    seriously, this kind of stuff is really easy to test, just go out of mor dhona and look for a mob or something, press OBEY, then contagion, then tell me if your pet still casts aerial slash.
    Uh no? She's on steady before the fight starts (when I cast my DoTs she doesn't do anything), but I guess it's hard to see that I weave obey in very fast when spamming bio / etc after I notice the first aerial slash.

    Also when re-watching the video I notice that for a pet on "guard" as you say it seems pretty convenient she never uses Contagion even once without me telling her (b/c I'm weaving in obey at certain points when I remember to), but uses Aerial Slash almost instantly after contagion each time (most likely would have used it quickly after 2nd contagion if it wasn't still on cd).

    But, if you want to believe you're right so much that you won't spam Obey just to make sure she stays on obey, then that's you. I don't mind weaving in a button to make sure.

    How are you in coil and not know how Obey works?
    may i see your coil video from your summoner's perspective?
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    Last edited by xxalucard; 10-31-2013 at 05:18 AM.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Uh no? She's on steady before the fight starts (when I cast my DoTs she doesn't do anything), but I guess it's hard to see that I weave obey in very fast when spamming bio / etc after I notice the first aerial slash.

    Also when re-watching the video I notice that for a pet on "guard" as you say it seems pretty convenient she never uses Contagion even once without me telling her (b/c I'm weaving in obey at certain points when I remember to), but uses Aerial Slash almost instantly after contagion each time (most likely would have used it quickly after 2nd contagion if it wasn't still on cd).

    But, if you want to believe you're right so much that you won't spam Obey just to make sure she stays on obey, then that's you. I don't mind weaving in a button to make sure.


    YEAH, that's what I meant actually, "steady" not "guard" it was a typo.


    and not once in that video I've seen obey pressed.
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    Hater Ade
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Not true. Once you manually use an ability (like contagion) it will revert to Sic and use other cd's. If you don't believe me go to the 3:34 point in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unSf1Dmf0vM

    At 3:34 if you watch Garuda in the party list on the left you will see him start using Aerial Slash despite me never having clicked anything other than Obey or Contagion (I had forgotten to spam obey again after the last contagion). Proof that you and everyone else spreading this kind of false info is wrong.

    I really hate how people keep saying false info like this, especially when one of them makes a thread on summoner tips & tricks and is wrong about a key thing.
    Maybe this is a ps3 glitch as I have never had this issue.
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