Absence of end-game content : the downfall of every MMO.

[EveKo]

OP You have not even stepped into Coil and you are already complaining about no end-game? Top FCs who are at turn 4 are not even complaining yet.

Seriously?

Go get your full DL gear, +1 to your relic then step into Coil, finish it then complain about not enough content

[Aragor]

OP You have not even stepped into Coil and you are already complaining about no end-game? Top FCs who are at turn 4 are not even complaining yet.

Seriously?

Go get your full DL gear, +1 to your relic then step into Coil, finish it then complain about not enough content

Seriously?

I'm up to turn 4 of Coil and I don't have the will to run those boring-@ss AK/CM non-stop for the oh-so-leet full DL most noobs brag about.

Has anybody tried the beta of Wildstar or ESO yet?

[Sayura_]

Seriously?

I'm up to turn 4 of Coil and I don't have the will to run those boring-@ss AK/CM non-stop for the oh-so-leet full DL most noobs brag about.

Has anybody tried the beta of Wildstar or ESO yet?

I tried ESO beta and stopped after the first one. Interesting skyrim-like game but not really my thing. I can see a lot of people enjoying it though.

[Sayura_]

PvP is very rarely restricted to the end of the game; it's its own thing. People are entering WvWvW and flagging for PvP in GW2 at level 30--even lower than that in other MMOs (i.e., Neverwinter, FFXI, SW:TOR, etc.). At best, it's a diversion, not true end game.

WvW/pVp is not a diversion. It's CONTENT. Something many mmos have learned over the years.

[Haoma]

WvW/pVp is not a diversion. It's CONTENT. Something many mmos have learned over the years.

Being a diversion doesn't mean that it's not content; it means that WvW/PvP is a means for the player to escape from the line of progression. But since PvP in many games (including this one) is something that can be participated in long before the player has beaten all--or even most--of the available content, it cannot, by definition, be considered end game. It's simply its own thing altogether.

So, again--moot point.

[Sayura_]

Being a diversion doesn't mean that it's not content; it means that WvW/PvP is a means for the player to escape from the line of progression. But since PvP in many games (including this one) is something that can be participated in long before the player has beaten all--or even most--of the available content, it cannot, by definition, be considered end game. It's simply its own thing altogether.

So, again--moot point.

WvW/PvP has it's own line of progression i.e. GW2 has WvW rank points which give you different skills like carrying more supply.

Quote from Yoshi

"With this PVP system, there's going to be different character systems compared to the PVE version. If you win a battle in PVP, you'll earn points, and when you collect these points you can exchange for certain abilities or skills or equipment dedicated to the PVP system. As such, you can level up your character in a sense within the PVP system."

It's OWN system with it's OWN end-game.

So, again--moot point.

[Peprika]

the problem is the simple fact that the only thing that matters IS the endgame. its time developers start to consider that its about the journey and not the destination.

make the leveling process the main focus and not the boring endgame.

[Elendil_Voronda]

I understand what you mean and I'm not that hardcore neither was I expecting TONS of stuff to do. Still, compare this game to the gold standard : WoW.

Really? are you going to compare a game that's been out there for almost a decade to a game that launched 2 months ago?. Of course WoW has tons of more content.

I would say level other classes, i also hate Fate parties although i do them from time to time, but i prefer to just go out with my chocobo and do some leves and then the occasional FATE that pops near me. Might not be as fast as FATE parties but i have more fun doing that, so in my book that makes it better, and ultimately I´m not in a race so I don't really care if i level my class to 50 in one week or three weeks, I care more about the amount of fun that i´m having while doing it.

[KraggyKor]

In most other MMOs it takes more than a few days to a week to level a toon to max level for the first time so you start your end-game experience later on.

Your beloved WOW wasn't one of them, even at launch.

The more you post about WOW the less likely I think it is you actually played it on release or for some time afterwards.

[Onolock]

OP You have not even stepped into Coil and you are already complaining about no end-game? Top FCs who are at turn 4 are not even complaining yet.

Seriously?

Go get your full DL gear, +1 to your relic then step into Coil, finish it then complain about not enough content

I'm extremely bored with the game, we cleared T4 almost 6 weeks ago. Probably played in total maybe 3 hours in the last 4 of those to clear Coil and cap myth....game is actually extremely boring and lacking content.