Hardcore versions of low end dungeons hardly counts. According to that page it only had one real endgame raid. FFXIV still seems better off.Imma just drop this here http://telarapedia.gamepedia.com/Dungeon emphasizing the "Retail Launch" section.
People need to quit defending the end game yes it is bad and stop saying it isn't.
Stop making new threads about it you're not a snowflake.
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