Absence of end-game content : the downfall of every MMO.

[Molly_Millions]

...and you couldn't post this in one of the countless other threads on the topic because?

[Seig345]

[...]but from what they've said, it's gonna be welfare gear for those who can't handle Coil. [...]

I can't speak for the rest of this, but you phrase that like they're bringing in Crystal Tower -because- of the ridiculous grind for gear to make you fit for Coil, but that's the opposite of the actual reason. That "hardcore" grind for gear to get into coil, was only there because Crystal Tower was postponed from launch. The rest of the game content was designed with the plan of having Crystal Tower there from day one. Everyone seems to be complaining and somehow stumped about the 'new' dungeon being a step 'backwards' when in truth it's simply the left foot catching up with the right in terms of what was supposed to be part of the content we currently have.

If that's not how you were trying to phrase it, then, just ignore this post and carry on. ;p

[Reeth]

Oh man, this thread is so new and fresh!

[Amberion]

you go into EVERY new MMO knowing that every MMO starts with little endgame and get upset when there isnt endgame? Unless a new MMO actually states they are changing the endgame system with lots to do at release, why would you expect anything else? And even if they did would you truly expect that it would be filled with a ton of content to keep a hardcore player busy all week?

I think a lot of people got their hopes up because they said the game truly begins at endgame. Only, once they get there, there is not much to do.

[reality_check]

THE GAME IS TWO MONTHS OLD.

ugh.

[Raiz_Cineris]

What came in the first serious content patch.
Crystal Tower : can't speak too fast from what we haven't experienced, but from what they've said, it's gonna be welfare gear for those who can't handle Coil.

TBH you can downplay the content all you want but as it stands there is only one group that has completed turn 5 of coil. That is the ultimate goal here isnt it? Beat the hardest content in game? So if you havent done that how is that there isnt enough content in game when you have yet to finish it?

[KogaDrake]

I understand what you mean and I'm not that hardcore neither was I expecting TONS of stuff to do. Still, compare this game to the gold standard : WoW.

Love when people look at fresh new MMO vs the 10years of developing "Gold standard" that is WoW... WoW was nothing even close to what people say it was at release and had little content and only got better with time, something that FFXIV has yet to have to know what will happen... Also, 2.1 is not really the first major content patch as its mostly adding in the stuff that was planned for release but was held back a bit rather then holding back the release...

[TrickedOutHoro]

I have to disagree. My friends and I (full-time jobs) in recent mmos got 1.5 years out of Aion, 6mo out of SWTOR, 1 year out of GW2, and we're feeling the boredom now after 2mo in FFXIV. We're waiting it out until the new patch because we do like the game but you can't say we have to "pay the price" when competing mmos don't see these issues 2 months in. IMO all those games had some sort of pvp so our interest was kept.

I can say it, and I will continue doing so. You only have yourself to blame if you go into a launch MMO and complain of lack of endgame content.

[Sayura_]

I can say it, and I will continue doing so. You only have yourself to blame if you go into a launch MMO and complain of lack of endgame content.

Uhm nope, I have lack of end game content and pvp.

It's called disagreeing not complaining.

[Ryios]

YAECCT (Yet another Engame Content Complain Thread)...

So, FFXI (launch in japan) had end game content without the xilart expansion? Nope not really.

Vanilla Wow had a bunch of Endgame content? Not really, onyxia etc. And Vanilla Wow had the same approach as SE does right now. They had little endgame content, so they made it hard as all get out.

Any new MMO game has little endgame content. This is why I usually don't get into an MMO till it's first expansion. But I've waited so long for this game that I just had to play it now and I'm ok with it. We level crafters, alts, and farm 3 or 4 turns of BCB every week. I am content with that until 2.1/2.2 drops.

And if 2.1/2.2 drop by christmas, it will be a good christmas.

If you don't like it, unsub and come back later. I know if everyone making these threads were to unsub right now, we'd probably be able to play without lag for a little while, cause there are a lot of you!...