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    "No Jump" is winning as of this post.
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    I see...

    he's a Lalafell, so he doesn't want anyone jump over his head

    I'll create a new character in Lindblum, wait for the time!
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    No jumping please. It's my own fault if I can't read a map and navigate a path without running into a hill or cliff. And like many people have said, what people want as "jumping", would be unrealistic. The average vertical jump for a male is around 16-20inches, and female 12-16. That's less then 2 feet. What can we possibly do other then hop around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I never said you did, L. But that is a sentiment I see often on the topic of jump.
    The funny thing about that is that having to walk around everything from low fences to pebbles on the road is more immersion-killing than having the ability to jump would.

    Secondly, character movement, despite what some may thing, is not smoothed out. Adding jump requires them to smooth character animations and reactions between player input (controller or keyboard) and the character moving. This is big to me because I want to see boss encounters that involve more movement and positioning and I know I'm not going to see that based on what we have right now.

    Thirdly, dungeon design suffers a bit because you can't have ledges, platforms or anything of that sort. It all has to be ramps in order to move about. Concerned about players getting to places they shouldn't? Invisible walls are the answer there, probably associated with walls of smoke or columns of fire, or in the case of the Garleans, could even be lasers and force fields to keep things in theme.
    Right on. Rate up for valid points rather than "Gimme jump because I want to jump!!" = D

    I'm more against stupid arguments for jumping than actually being against jumping. It's my opinion that improvements can be made to make the game fun & interesting all without implementing jump. It's definitely not a requirement for me. With all the more important things the game needs at best it should be a low priority and may not even be needed at all. But if it does happen, so be it.
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    I have not taken a "you're not one of us so leave" stance with people who have different opinions.

    Just saying its silly to say to people 'go play rift', 'then go play that X game' or go back to wow. People are here cause they want this game to succeed. Stop telling them to go away, you don't really want that. People going away makes for a very sad lonely mmo....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceons View Post
    I have not taken a "you're not one of us so leave" stance with people who have different opinions.

    Just saying its silly to say to people 'go play rift', 'then go play that X game' or go back to wow. People are here cause they want this game to succeed. Stop telling them to go away, you don't really want that. People going away makes for a very sad lonely mmo....
    It makes some sense. If a person wants a game that has certain features, should they...
    A) Play the games that have those features
    B) Play a game without those features and whine all day about how horrible it is because it doesn't have them, hoping to get it changed

    Worth mentioning that it was said in response to someone who constantly bashes FF people as if their opinion doesn't matter & they should leave. So I'd say they're even.
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    Last edited by Leeloo; 05-22-2011 at 10:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeloo View Post
    It makes some sense. If a person wants a game that has certain features, should they...
    A) Play the games that have those features
    B) Play a game without those features and whine all day about how horrible it is because it doesn't have them, hoping to get it changed
    True.

    ppl like evangela want to turn this game into some childish c*** ("the game sucks because u cant jump" explains all) instead of just going to one of the other 500 MMOs out there where u can jump around like a rabbit all the time.

    What is unlimited jumping good for? Absolutely NOTHING, instead of looking at dozens of ppl jumping around without a break...


    I hope the FFXIV devs are a bit like the EVE ones, which dont care about those WoW/Hello Kitty-type players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alegis View Post
    What is unlimited jumping good for? Absolutely NOTHING, instead of looking at dozens of ppl jumping around without a break...
    You're raging about people jumping in place. Why?
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    You're raging about people jumping in place. Why?
    Have you ever taken a noisy toy away from a child because of the annoying way they spam the noise with the toy?

    It's kind of like that with a different sense.
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