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    Player Arriverderci's Avatar
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    Noel Kreiss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.
    I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
    PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
    PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.
    Protect is redundant if you have a WHM present. However, in the middle of a fight, a WHM will probably be too busy using actual heals instead of stoneskin. This makes it useful for the PLD to use here.
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    Riyo Ke
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Protect is redundant if you have a WHM present. However, in the middle of a fight, a WHM will probably be too busy using actual heals instead of stoneskin. This makes it useful for the PLD to use here.
    This, when bosses are casting moves and not actually hitting tanks there is always time for the PLD to Stoneskin himself. Helps healers save MP and give time to heal others.
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
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    It's actually ineffecient for the WHM to use their MP on a PLD, most of the time. I don't have access to my client currently, but stoneskin costs a lot of MP for a heal that's under cure's essentially. Warriors are abit of a different story, as a stoneskin on them from a WHM is worth 1260+ HP, whereas a full DL / relic +1 WHM's cure is going to be hitting for high 900's noncrit, but of course, SS can't crit either.

    A Paladin floats at rough 6kish HP at best, or 1080, not even a 100 HP increase over cure, yet it requires a sizable sum of MP more. Most Paladins are going to be around the 5.6k mark, or an effective stoneskin of 1008. Not worth the trade off of higher MP costs and lack of crit.

    That being said, for a PLD who has hate established and isn't AoE tanking (Boss fights), stoneskin gives himself a 560 HP shield, which is pretty nice for a tank buff that has no recast.

    EDIT to contnue: Most WHMs only use SS as a pre-shield, and if they're MP is so good they could recast it mid fight, they'd probably be better off nuking.
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    Last edited by Bigpurpleharness; 10-29-2013 at 11:25 PM. Reason: Character limit.

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    Sally Syrup
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
    PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.
    Use Stoneskin in between monster attacks. Helps the healers from casting a stoneskin and allows them to focus a cast on something else. Great example of this is if a Paladin stonskins during a Titan landslide. They are not the focus of the landslide in most cases, and the party members are moving around. Cast a stoneskin on yourself and lower the next incoming damage.

    Works for more bosses not just Titan.
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    Last edited by Luso; 10-29-2013 at 11:52 PM. Reason: :p
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