Paladin Cure... Debate, warrior stuff

[Blazer]

cure sucks

Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.

[Arriverderci]

Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.

I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.

[Giantbane]

I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.

Protect is redundant if you have a WHM present. However, in the middle of a fight, a WHM will probably be too busy using actual heals instead of stoneskin. This makes it useful for the PLD to use here.

[Riyo]

Protect is redundant if you have a WHM present. However, in the middle of a fight, a WHM will probably be too busy using actual heals instead of stoneskin. This makes it useful for the PLD to use here.

This, when bosses are casting moves and not actually hitting tanks there is always time for the PLD to Stoneskin himself. Helps healers save MP and give time to heal others.

[Bigpurpleharness]

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It's actually ineffecient for the WHM to use their MP on a PLD, most of the time. I don't have access to my client currently, but stoneskin costs a lot of MP for a heal that's under cure's essentially. Warriors are abit of a different story, as a stoneskin on them from a WHM is worth 1260+ HP, whereas a full DL / relic +1 WHM's cure is going to be hitting for high 900's noncrit, but of course, SS can't crit either.

A Paladin floats at rough 6kish HP at best, or 1080, not even a 100 HP increase over cure, yet it requires a sizable sum of MP more. Most Paladins are going to be around the 5.6k mark, or an effective stoneskin of 1008. Not worth the trade off of higher MP costs and lack of crit.

That being said, for a PLD who has hate established and isn't AoE tanking (Boss fights), stoneskin gives himself a 560 HP shield, which is pretty nice for a tank buff that has no recast.

EDIT to contnue: Most WHMs only use SS as a pre-shield, and if they're MP is so good they could recast it mid fight, they'd probably be better off nuking.

[Luso]

I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.

Use Stoneskin in between monster attacks. Helps the healers from casting a stoneskin and allows them to focus a cast on something else. Great example of this is if a Paladin stonskins during a Titan landslide. They are not the focus of the landslide in most cases, and the party members are moving around. Cast a stoneskin on yourself and lower the next incoming damage.

Works for more bosses not just Titan.

[Molly_Millions]

Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.

A PLD should never be casting stoneskin, it's a waste of time, just like cure.

[Choyi]

A PLD should never be casting stoneskin, it's a waste of time, just like cure.

While Cure is a total waste of time and MP, and should't be crossclassed, a self casted Stoneskin is a 600dmg absorb that sometimes can make the difference between life and death, but this doesn't realy come into play until some fights much later into the game.

It definatly is very situational but Stoneskin on a PLD definatly has a use, and there isn't like there are much anything else to bring for crossclass skills.

[Molly_Millions]

While Cure is a total waste of time and MP, and should't be crossclassed, a self casted Stoneskin is a 600dmg absorb that sometimes can make the difference between life and death, but this doesn't realy come into play until some fights much later into the game.

It definatly is very situational but Stoneskin on a PLD definatly has a use, and there isn't like there are much anything else to bring for crossclass skills.

Tbh, you'd be better off using one of the native PLD defensive cooldowns instead.

[Choyi]

Tbh, you'd be better off using one of the native PLD defensive cooldowns instead.

Being that defensive cooldowns are off the GCD it's not like you have to choose either or.