Paladin Cure... Debate, warrior stuff

[Black_Rose]

well, we had a good healing spell for PLD in 1.x.
but since jobs in this game practically only bring 5 Job related skills with them they probably left it out because they felt like it wouldn't be helpful.
can't really tell what's going on in their brains currently, besides looks, the jobs don't feel like anything in the older games, that's for sure.

[Makeda]

The tank job with self healing is called Warrior.

Everybody gets something, in exchange for not having something else.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

The tank job with self healing is called Warrior.

Everybody gets something, in exchange for not having something else.

Bloodbath is the OP self healing.

[Tiggy]

Bloodbath is the OP self healing.

As a Warrior I say it's nice but hardly overpowered. Boss mobs they hit me for far more health than I can cure through bloodbath during its duration. At best its a type of mitigation as opposed to true healing. Perhaps on other classes who can cross class it you can actually gain a considerable amount of health back, but I can not. Inner Beast is far more powerful in my opinion, but not overpowered since I need five stacks of wrath.

[Ri_ri]

The tank job with self healing is called Warrior.

Everybody gets something, in exchange for not having something else.

I want to cast Cure and Esuna and Raise on others, though.

You know, being more than a stun bot on some occasions...

[Choyi]

I want to cast Cure and Esuna and Raise on others, though.

You know, being more than a stun bot on some occasions...

Most fights that require timed stuns to interrupt can be done by the very same PLD who MTs, granted they know the timings and the fight well enough, practice and you will see it is not that hard.
Only fight where there isn't a set in stone pattern would be chimera, and even then there is plenty of windows in between(besides you can't chain stun due to DR anyways) the abilites being cast.

Even easier if you OT, theres no excuse not to contribute to damage with combos in between interupts.

[Ri_ri]

Most fights that require timed stuns to interrupt can be done by the very same PLD who MTs, granted they know the timings and the fight well enough, practice and you will see it is not that hard.
Only fight where there isn't a set in stone pattern would be chimera, and even then there is plenty of windows in between(besides you can't chain stun due to DR anyways) the abilites being cast.

Even easier if you OT, theres no excuse not to contribute to damage with combos in between interupts.

I was specifically talking about off tanking, and the damage you do is so low that's better to just focus on stunning (to not mess up and aggro the party instead...).

[Kantide]

Curing is integral to Paladin as far as traditional game lore goes, especially Final Fantasy. I would feel better if paladin had some bonus to Cure. Maybe not as much as WHM but at least being able to heal within 100 HP of them. All this would take is MND on PLD gear.

The ability to use Raise during combat would be nice also.

Cover needs its range extended.

The only thing I can think of is that Paladin is now like Knight from FFT (which is it's Japanese name and should have been translated as such) and the ability to be a melee class stemming from GLD that has more magic potential is being saved for Red Mage, in which case, carry on~

[Shuon]

The only thing I can think of is that Paladin is now like Knight from FFT (which is it's Japanese name and should have been translated as such) and the ability to be a melee class stemming from GLD that has more magic potential is being saved for Red Mage, in which case, carry on~

the ffxiv pld IS the Knight, unfortunately.

to incorporate curing into the PLD mechanics requires a complete overhaul of the job though... in ffxi, self-heals were ok because they generated a fair amount of hate with all the +enmity gear. in this game, even if you are able to cure for as much as a whm would, it doesnt generate nearly as enough hate as your combos to make cure appropriate party tools.

i'm perfectly fine with how pld is right now by focusing on high mitigation, although to be able to cast more potent cures would be very nice for emergencies.

[Ruminate]

the ffxiv pld IS the Knight, unfortunately.

There can be no "unfortunately" because there is no such thing as a Paladin in FF games. Every time you see the word "Paladin" in a FF game, know that its actually "Knight".