Paladin Cure... Debate, warrior stuff

[Ryios]

Just wondering... Why is cure I the only heal a paladin can access. A paladin that can't really cure themselves just seems silly. It wasn't like that in past games (FFXI) and in other games paladins can heal a lot better than just a 100-200 hp cure.

I really feel like Paladin should have access to at least Cure II, (tons of mana not really getting used except flash spam and they can use riot blade to get mana back).

I also feel warrior should be able to cross more out of paladin than just convalescence and awareness and vice versa, paladin should be able to get more than foresight and blood bath.

Why don't they just make Warrior's one handed axes and change all the Axes to one handed's, and let warrior use shields and let both stuns be crossable from one to the other. Then they both have an off GCD stun and an on GCD stun. Then make Silence crossable to warrior and overpower crossable to paladins.

Later they could release a DPS extension to warrior that uses 2 handed axes, (dark knight being a sycthe), maybe another dps class like "Berserker" or something.

[Estellios]

The only FF game where PLD healing is worth anything is FF11.

[HaplessHermit]

The only FF game where PLD healing is worth anything is FF11.

While this is true, this is also an MMO, and it can't really follow the same pattern as single-player games. I don't expect a Paladin to keep themselves alive, but their cures do seem a bit limited. Then again, I'm not a Paladin, just a White Mage.

[RemiRoss]

While this is true, this is also an MMO, and it can't really follow the same pattern as single-player games. I don't expect a Paladin to keep themselves alive, but their cures do seem a bit limited. Then again, I'm not a Paladin, just a White Mage.

FFXI is also an MMO.

[Devilray]

The only FF game where PLD healing is worth anything is FF11.

While this is true, this is also an MMO, and it can't really follow the same pattern as single-player games. I don't expect a Paladin to keep themselves alive, but their cures do seem a bit limited. Then again, I'm not a Paladin, just a White Mage.

I think you need to get your brain checked Hermit, only if you thought FFXI is a single player game.

[Ryans]

The only FF game where PLD healing is worth anything is FF11.

I'd like to add PLD had cure in FFXIV post-1.23. Holy Succor cured the PLD for half the amount it cured it another party member or could be used on yourself. I don't understand why FFXI can't be used as precedent for FFXIV. People have used plenty of examples where things have only been in one FF title in the past and that's okay because it wasn't FFXI. The Golden Saucer for example. Hell, at least PLD had healing that cured for more than 4% of their HP in other FF titles. Even Warrior has more healing potential than PLD.

[Ryios]

Or they could make it so we can upgrade a cross class at the expense of a slot. E.g. if we want Cure II we have to take Cure I and Cure II using 2 slots.

[Blazer]

cure sucks

Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.

[Arriverderci]

Take your whm to 36 (?) and get stoneskin. Spam stoneskin rather than cure.

I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.

[Giantbane]

I might be wrong, but I feel like some Cross-classes skills are ridiculously stupid
PLD can have Protect and Stoneskin, but if a WHM is there, there is no point to ever use it, as we have Granite and Proshell.

Protect is redundant if you have a WHM present. However, in the middle of a fight, a WHM will probably be too busy using actual heals instead of stoneskin. This makes it useful for the PLD to use here.