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  1. #11
    Player
    Avatar von TemprusofTime
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    Sep 2013
    Ort
    Limsa Lominsa
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    60
    Character
    Karyna Faruna
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Hermetiker Lv 45
    I've never had standard fail on steady hands either and I've crafted all crafts to 25, and a few of them to 30. Alchemist is the only one to 40 so I don't have SHII yet.

    Maybe your fails happened when steady hands runs out. I've been known to keep going after it ran out because I was distracted or just didn't notice it go away. I'm sure all of us crafters probably do that more than a few times each day.
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  2. #12
    Player
    Avatar von Kyronex
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    Aug 2013
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    Character
    Kyronex Zero
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Hermetiker Lv 50
    Zitat Zitat von OrganizationXIll Beitrag anzeigen
    Unless it has been changed since release week, this is not true. (No patch notes mention a change) I had a Standard Touch Fail with Steady Hand. That's 80% + 20%? So, according to you, it didn't happen?

    With Steady Hand I:

    80% + (80% * 20%) = 96%

    With Steady Hand II:

    80% + (80% * 30%) = 104%

    TL;DR - Multiplicative. Steady Hand II makes most skills over 100% chance, but it isn't added directly on top.
    It's additive, never had a SH + BT fail once since Beta 3 which is a miracle if it was really at 96% as you say.

    I've had 98% chance of HQ fail and get an NQ item numerous times.
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    Geändert von Kyronex (30.10.13 um 00:48 Uhr)

  3. #13
    Player
    Avatar von Valarian
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    Mar 2011
    Ort
    Gridania
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    103
    Character
    Celene Starlight
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I believe it is additive, myself, however I do recall a specific window between updates where Steady Hand + Standard Touch did fail occasionally.

    I remember this well because someone had just posed a question to me asking if Steady Hand was 10% or 20% and I told them 20% because I had never had this particular combination fail on me and I had been using it a great deal in a macro of mine. With hundreds of macroed trials I felt pretty confident of that. One day I logged in, started crafting with that macro, and things started to blow up on occasion. The first time I dismissed as a fluke, but it happened to me a small handful of times that day. Once the next update hit, though, it never happened again.

    I don't think people who remember Steady Hands + Standard Touch failing are wrong, but are instead victim of a bug that crept in and out under the radar.
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  4. #14
    Player
    Avatar von Teykos
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    Character
    Somna Sleepwalker
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologe Lv 70
    Zitat Zitat von Valarian Beitrag anzeigen
    I believe it is additive, myself, however I do recall a specific window between updates where Steady Hand + Standard Touch did fail occasionally.

    I remember this well because someone had just posed a question to me asking if Steady Hand was 10% or 20% and I told them 20% because I had never had this particular combination fail on me and I had been using it a great deal in a macro of mine. With hundreds of macroed trials I felt pretty confident of that. One day I logged in, started crafting with that macro, and things started to blow up on occasion. The first time I dismissed as a fluke, but it happened to me a small handful of times that day. Once the next update hit, though, it never happened again.

    I don't think people who remember Steady Hands + Standard Touch failing are wrong, but are instead victim of a bug that crept in and out under the radar.
    I'm pretty sure this was either Phase 2 or Phase 3.
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  5. #15
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    Avatar von Casper
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    Character
    Casper Theghost
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Schurke Lv 50
    Definitely addictive.
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  6. #16
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    Avatar von COSMIC_RENEGADE
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    Aug 2013
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    Lomsa Lomnisa
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    45
    Character
    Cosmic Renegade
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Hermetiker Lv 60
    I have crafted thousands too and its additive. Never had SH +ST fail on me.
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    ABM

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