Which is sad, since WP drops Ilvl 55 gear and was designed for people in AF to gear up with it then tackle AK then tackle end-game. You can clear both dungeons without being "decked out."
Yes but if you're wearing that ilvl 55 gear I guarentee you won't get the 10 minute runs people want

No one is stopping you from running a WP in ilvl 55 or hell even AF gear, you just have to make a group and get people willing to go in your run with that kind of gear, which will be similarly geared people, you are bound to wipe/be slow but thats what you expect. Don't expect to put 0 effort into your gear and get a SR with relic geared people.
It feels like you're just looking for an argument for the sake of it without thinking of possible logical answers first, lol.
I think it is understandable.
There are a lot of DPS looking for group.
So if one DPS shouts with a lot of information on him/herself - he has a higher chance to get an invite compared to a "dps lfg plz inv" shout.
True, Relic and Full DL is not neccessary, but it is an advantage... and if a group is looking for a DPS they either take friends/FC-members... or if they take strangers, they pick one that has a high chance of being a well equipped and experienced player if they have a choice... and they usually do.
Last edited by Trystan; 10-28-2013 at 11:06 PM.
People on Siren tend to be very smug so, if you don't shout relic or relic + 1 / Geared; it's more than likely that you won't get a group at all, actually.So if one DPS shouts with a lot of information on him/herself - he has a higher chance to get an invite compared to a "dps lfg plz inv" shout.
True, Relic and Full DL is not neccessary, but it is an advantage... and if a group is looking for a DPS they either take friends/FC-members... or if they take strangers, they pick one that has a high chance of being a well equipped and experienced player if they have a choice... and they usually do.
I guess it varies by server but, that's my experience thus far.
Let's put it this way. I run AK on my scholar who has DL + Relic. If I'm going to form a group or if I'm looking for members I'm going to grab the guy with the relic over the guy without.

This. There's typically lots of DPS looking for group. Listing gear/etc is just a way to make you stand out from the crowd.


It's almost getting to where most people has it or close to it. I'm not trying to start an argument at all. I also understand someone's gonna pic someone shouting relic over not. I'm just wondering if this is going to be a trend that we see for the rest of this games life...having to shout your gear while lfg or do you think when the gear requirements for dungeons are put in place it will stop? It doesn't make me mad or anything people do it esp since I'm a Titan kill away from having my own, it just seems like that's a lot of information to sift through when /sh text is usually flowing pretty fast in mor dhona.
There's got to be a better way? Maybe put an "R" in front of job? Like RBLM or +1BLM? If your have your relic or +1 can't we assume you already have full DL or close?
/sh Relic +1 BLM LFG WPSR or AKSR full DL
/sh +1BLM LFG WP or AK sr
And
/sh RBLM LFG etc
Which would you prefer? This isn't even taking into account you have myth gear.


I need something like 90 WP's for DL and relic on my next 2 50's and Im prepping for them in advance.
With a relic/DL group I can run WP in 15 minutes. With a normal group it can take 40 minutes.
90 * 15 = 1350 = 22.5 Hours = .93 Days
90 * 40 = 3600 = 60 Hours = 2.5 Days
Would you want to run WP for 2.5 Days Straight non stop back to back, or less than 1 Day?
Realistically it would be two weeks of 4 or 5 runs a day. With bad groups though it could be 4 weeks of 4 or 5 runs a day.
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