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    Sentinel&Rampart

    I couldn't find any info on this, maybe someone here knows anything.

    If I have rampart and sentinel active at the same time does the damage mitigation stack?
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    They stack additively yes.
    They stack multiplicatively with Shield Oath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    They stack additively yes.
    They stack multiplicatively with Shield Oath.
    Citation?

    /tenchar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    Citation?

    /tenchar
    Its from what I have tested on mobs.
    Do you have data suggesting otherwise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    Its from what I have tested on mobs.
    Do you have data suggesting otherwise?
    I do not, it just seems a strange way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    I do not, it just seems a strange way to do it.
    It sounds weird I know, but Shield oath mitigates damage, Rampart and sentinel then mitigate it further after the calculation for SO is done.

    Its why incoming damage isn't dropped to an extremely low number.
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    Kewl. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    Its from what I have tested on mobs.
    Are you sure? Most other simultaneous effects in ARR are multiplicative with similar buffs, not additive. Given the nature of damage ranges and the similar levels of mitigation you'd achieve from either additive or multiplicative mechanics (additive would put you at 40% damage taken; multiplicative would put you at 48% which is well within the range of damage ranges suggesting identical results), unless you have a very large sample size, I'd lean towards Rampart/Sentinel following the existing pattern rather than being a unique case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    Are you sure? Most other simultaneous effects in ARR are multiplicative with similar buffs, not additive. Given the nature of damage ranges and the similar levels of mitigation you'd achieve from either additive or multiplicative mechanics (additive would put you at 40% damage taken; multiplicative would put you at 48% which is well within the range of damage ranges suggesting identical results), unless you have a very large sample size, I'd lean towards Rampart/Sentinel following the existing pattern rather than being a unique case.
    I'll give it a shot again since i ddn't record it properly, but I am very sure that Shield oath is multiplicative towards Sentinel/Rampart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    I'll give it a shot again since i ddn't record it properly, but I am very sure that Shield oath is multiplicative towards Sentinel/Rampart.
    Oh, I know that Shield Oath is multiplicative with the buffs. You said that Sentinel and Rampart are additive with each other, which is what I'm doubting.
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