Order of the Blue Garter Twintania Down (No Exploits)

[C-croft]

Players in world first guilds don't click their abilities or have their damn tool tips on still. Do you not know what your abilities do by now? Sorry, but I'm not buying that excuse, multiple people dropped to it.

Wasn't going to say anything, but I have to now.

#lolololololololololololololol

[dimach]

The only exploit I saw throughout this whole video, intended or not I don't care is the dreadnight bug.... and I'm not going to say anymore here because then it just viruses out to everyone and then you have millions of people doing it. My two-sense on the mitigation on the death sentences through use of conflags is that its definetly an amazing way to go about it and its definitely not an exploit or bug in any way. You are using a mechanic from the boss to stop another mechanic if anything it was intended to work that way and if not they would of changed the idea that a person is still targetable by death sentence in a conflag a long time ago. We used the same strat when we first got to twintania.

[des]

Players in world first guilds don't click their abilities or have their damn tool tips on still. Do you not know what your abilities do by now? Sorry, but I'm not buying that excuse, multiple people dropped to it.

Damn, didn't want to say anything but damn, someone really is freaking butthurt .

[glim]

Onolock is doing good at being nonchalant with all the ad hominems being thrown at him, I still think bg earned this kill, onolock doesn't think so, and that's fine. and no, I don't think this person is denying the world first because of "jealousy" but because this is how he really sees this, again, that's fine.

if anything, people should be critiquing him on why he still think that something that simple (imo, simple) should not warrant bg world first. but in the end, it just always ends in "agree to disagree". I do not see any bitterness, I just see him being adamant about it.

[C-croft]

Onolock is doing good at being nonchalant with all the ad hominems being thrown at him, I still think bg earned this kill, onolock doesn't think so, and that's fine. and no, I don't think this person is denying the world first because of "jealousy" but because this is how he really sees this, again, that's fine.

if anything, people should be critiquing him on why he still think that something that simple (imo, simple) should not warrant bg world first. but in the end, it just always ends in "agree to disagree". I do not see any bitterness, I just see him being adamant about it.

I think we are beyond adamant once Onolock belittled someone for still having tooltips on and clicking their abilities. Because world first isn't a world first if you still use clicks and tooltips....

[Horg]

In endgame raiding, usually, clicking abilities and/or not using mouse-over macros tends to be looked down on. IE Pressing a key is WAY faster than positioning the mouse and clicking (especially when you have to use the mouse to target or hover), you lose a ton of efficiency...but that's with games which don't have a 2.5 second GCD, lol. Obviously you can click to your heart's content in this game since you have plenty of time between abilities, though you'd probably lose some reaction speed when having to move. Next we should find those keyboard turners :-P

[Alkimi]

I swear some of you (well one guy) won't stop crying "exploit!" until you have a Square Enix endorsed rulebook for every fight. Just kill the damn thing, does it really matter if it's not absolutely 100% the way SE intended?

Is stunning all ifrit's eruptions an exploit? Killing Chimera up the slope to avoid Dragon Voice hitting ranged? Killing Caduceus without popping slimes? It's not our job to draw arbitrary lines about what is and isn't legitimate. If SE decide to adjust the fight later on then so be it.

[RyuDragnier]

2 days late to the party I am, but congratulations OP!

[Senzura]

My dads twintania and he says BG bugged it

[RapBreon]

Doing that phase legit, you have to tank swap because of the healing debuff and the fact that she is doing more dmg and hitting faster with one of the link gone. Tanks can easily get gibbed from a DS + quick melee attack that happens, it's happened to us many times, there is no way to heal the tank quick enough sometimes and get him up quickly with the debuff. Since you don't ever have to swap tanks and manage healing cooldowns/tank cooldowns, makes healing and tanking a joke and pointless. You have no offtank since you are exploiting this since no healing debuff ever happens/ no death sentence ever happens. Tank only ever gets auto-attacked leaving the offtank to dps and spec out of vit like yours is. Still you have said nothing showing me you didn't exploit. Of course the phase is easy for healers, there is nothing to heal but fireballs which is a joke.

All this illustrates to me is that your MT and Healer are have trouble communicating when DS is incoming. Our MT who has only ~6k HP (600+ less health than BG's MT for reference) can and does MT the entirety of phase 2. Additionally, he can - with CD's - be solo kept up by a single healer if one goes into a conflag. And our healers have one (!) Allagan piece between the two of them. You over-estimate infirmity's effectiveness. I do that entire fight in Sword Oath minus the adds at the start and the snakes. You can do this without having your MT jump into a conflag. My group is four weeks behind first week raiders and we still have the DPS to deal with conflags.

What's my point here? Phase 2 isn't even hard enough for a serious progression guild for this to matter. It is more likely due to being worn out repeating this phase ad nauseam that they just went with the method that allowed them to shut-off. Even if the MT jumping into the fire is a bug, it doesn't matter, everybody has figured out how to get past this phase with a very high degree of accuracy at this point. Is the title incorrect? Maybe, but everybody was up to Twisters not conflags.

If you want my personal opinion, I do think the AI script is dodgy as hell, but again they did it to get through a section most serious progression guilds (themselves included) bested weeks ago. If someone turned around and said; "BG has never completed phase 2 without that tactic," then I'd be more willing to side with you. And even then, I'd reserve judgement until SE said something.

I personally think you're transplanting your own groups difficulties onto BG.