Shortage of Tank .......

[Kerowyn]

If someone pulls a mob from a pack Um tanking that ISNT the marked mob, my attitude is "You spank it you tank it" Same goes for that DPS/Healer running ahead of me to Instant Cast pull when Im not ready.

[Ryios]

Well, tanks get to 50 and never run lower dungeons again. Most the people who went tank are 50 now. E.g. I have Paladin and Warrior both level to 50, I haven't tanked anything not BCB, WP, AK, Castrum, Or HM Primal in 2 months.

And any tank in a BCB group doesn't use the Duty Finder anymore. Man I haven't used the DF to tank something in weeks. I mean why would I want to que up with random people and take a chance at them being slow, undergeared, etc etc when I can take 2 relic + 1 dps from my BCB static and a relic healer and we clear WP in 14 minutes. Why should I want to spend 40 minutes doing something I could do in 14? Time is money.

Imo, The duty finder is a luxury item. If you get a group in it, great, if not stop crying and go do something else (and yes I've sat in que as a dps for 2 hours) I just ask my FC is someone wants to que tank with me and poof, insta que.

There is nothing SE can do about tank shortages in the DF, they can't make tanks QUE up randomly.

Also, our FC has so many freagin tanks were going on BCB group 4 with 5 half built already. Tanks are everywhere. The problem isn't their is a shortage of tanks, the problem is they don't que up in the DF without a premade.

Short Version: If you want to run with other people, you need to play with other people. That means befriending some tanks in an LS or FC and getting into your own premade niche.

[Kerowyn]

If a DPS pulls an off mob from me I nicely ask them to follow the kill order and tell them "You spank it you tank it"

As for DPS or heals running ahead of me I tell them nicely to stop or I can find myself another Instant GF Queue ( If I get a 15min lockout I just Gather or Craft )

[Daemin]

My FC has literally more Tanks and healers than we can party with. We always have tanks for coils and any HM primal, and only ever so rarely do we have to use the duty finder to get a tank.
I for one dread the duty finder. Everyone's main instinct seems to be 'blame the tank if I die'. Two days ago, I had to do a WP DF run just cuz I logged in way early. We reached the second boss, where he spawn adds and can follow a random player, and the adds will follow that same player. Silly DPSes just stood there and got aoed to death. First thing they did? "Tank hold aggro omg."
Tanks are there, in fact I find a lot of them shouting for parties in Revnant's Toll. Just go there and get one, don't use the duty finder. Most tanks and healers avoid it.

[aswedishtiger]

50 relic Paladin here, the toxic community and "requests" and "speed runs" and elitists and demanding demands of the demanding community have turned LOTS of people off to tanking. The remaining tanks are bullies, always pissed, take charge of groups and a generally not nice when in a PUG. I for one am guilty of all of this, because of 50 levels of being talked down to and bullied kinda molded me into a jerk tank. Gonna be completely honest with ya OP if you turn into a jerk tank and I run into you on my relic Monk which is the job I main. I wouldn't even be upset with you. Not even a little bit.

[Astrix]

Lol Tank for Duty finder grps! suuuuure!

[Lexin]

I have not taken my pld into any dungeons in over a month because of the community. I would admit it was my fault if it was but seems like the rest of the party doesn't want to take blame for something. Last thing is the speedruns/rushing sorry but not a big fan of just racing through content in a week like 90% of the 50's in the game.

[SpookyGhost]

i stopped working on tank at 50 because darklight is ugly that also is why i havent leveled warrior

It's pretty awful (at least the body piece), but thankfully there are options after you live through DL. Mainly AF2 chest/head+hoplite body or the Allagan chest if you decide to run Coil. A lot less ugly and imo WAR has the nicest AF2 chest piece in the game.

[Moirear]

Also BLM that never use Sleep or WHM that never once cast repose. Saves a lot of healing and keeps hate loss down.

Yeah, about that. I religiously use those spells but there are incredible amounts of people who strangely prefer to spam weakly AOEs which wake the enemies right back up, even if you've marked them as locked-down targets. So I'm pretty sure a lot of people eventually don't even bother with sleep/repose anymore at some point, and just focus on dps or healing. I use them nevertheless but I've found it startling how in 80% of the groups I land in, sleep/repose is rendered useless by other party members, in some cases even if you point it out or explicitly say so.

[Astarica]

There are bad tanks and there bad DPS and bad healers, but it's more likely to succeed if everyone follows what the bad tank believes than what the bad DPS believes, so you might as well go with the tank, even if he's wrong. There's no dungeon that's so hard where even if you're marking the '1' in the worst possible way, you'd somehow wipe by attacking the '1' first. Honestly the tank really doesn't affect the group that much unless he's purposely pointing frontal AEs at the group, or standing on instant kill ground effects on purpose. So while most tanks are indeed bad and have no idea what they're doing, there's no reason to argue with them if you know what you're doing because the only thing you can't overcome is if the tank dies on purpose.