Shortage of Tank .......

[stickygreen]

"UR a terrible tank" "LERN to hold threat" "Kill urself" (insert derogatory comment of your choice here). These are just a few of the things I've either seen people say to others or read about. I did not change the spelling for effect, but this is what people end up facing. This starts around level 15 when you have to start grouping, it's no wonder many don't continue on the path. As a tank you have to learn how to take a beating from the mobs AND your fellow players sometimes. This may help explain in part why the tank shortage is as bad as it is.

This is sad but true. Sometimes i dread stepping foot into a dungeon for the first time and dont know the layout yet and end up taking a beating from my fellow party memberswhen something doesnt go perfectly. I always try to do some research before hand (YouTube) but its never as good as jumping in and getting some practice first hand.

[Faceroller]

This is the first game I have had to mark mobs pre raids... It's disgusting tbh... Sorry, but if you just don't pay attention to who is fighting what, facepalm yourself; it's okay, I won't see you do it... Anyway, I DO mark every mob, and I still get peeps doing their own thing. I had one dps dude pull agro off a side mob that I did not have threat on, I let him "tank" it, and he said "Sorry, I was watching TV." It's nonsense like that that gives me pause about tanking dungeons. Play the game or don't play the game; you wanna watch TV, get offline -- we need you in the here and now. Anyway, that's just a sample of some of the retarded things that have happened on my watch as tank. I think I have had too many of those facepalm moments for my tastes. I understand that some people have no idea what they've gotten themselves into with mmorpg game play, but to just ignore basic math... 1..2..3 OMG DURP! OH! I'm supposed to kill them in THAT order?

[Kuvu]

Honestly in 12 years playing mmo's this has to be the worst community I have ever dealt with. I might go so far as to say its worse than wow. I have never dealt with the kind of abuse I get tanking in any other mmo that I see here. It is a wonder that df has any tanks to que at all.

[Gucci_Charms]

Honestly in 12 years playing mmo's this has to be the worst community I have ever dealt with. I might go so far as to say its worse than wow. I have never dealt with the kind of abuse I get tanking in any other mmo that I see here. It is a wonder that df has any tanks to que at all.

So true. Tanks get the raw end of the stick in this game. I have never seen so much rage people throw at tanks in this game. If you manage to befriend a tank on your server who will help you, be grateful.

Also tip of the day: don't piss off or be rude to your tank in your party. It affects the entire party, not just yourself lol!

[Valarice]

I mark each pull for the sake of maintaining attack order. I tend to tab-target other mobs and maintain threat on them while the dps in working on <1> so that <3> doesn't peel off and attack the healer later on. I don't want them to kill <1> and then attack my currently focused target <3> when I am only marginally keeping threat on that one.

Usually I do about 65% of my threat to <1>, 25% to <2> and 10% to <3>. If I feel <1> is going to die without losing aggro I'll stop attacking it completely and move on to <2> and <3>, doing about 70% to <2> and 30% to <3>.

This has the unfortunate side effect of making me feel drained after the run is over because I literally do the explaining of fights, marking of targets, tanking of 3+ mobs and trying to maintain a level of expediency so I can get on with the next run after this one as fast as possible with the group I've been provided by DF. Never mind the fact that as a tank, I'm usually expected to always know the fights so I'll youtube even regular dungeons before going into them unless it is with the FC.

All that being said, I love tanking and have done MMO tanking since early 2005. Just remember to thank your tanks (and healies) when things go well rather than only think of them when things go wrong, and then criticize them. <3

[Lemon8or]

I find it funny that everyone shouts for tanks in Mor Dhona requiring them having Relic and good gear and stuffs to get into the group, yet will not help a tank get their Relic to even get there in the first place, especially Titan HM where you only need 1 tank. So a group of all fresh people will get 1 tank Relic, 5 dps relic and 2 healers relic. Then they shout looking for tank with Relic..... sure.

[ZephyrK]

I am giving up on tanking. Why?

1- I am a warrior and not a paladin. Paladins are the chosen ones, and I don't want to play as a mamsy-pamsy Paladin.
2- Everyone expects something different from a tank, but in general, they just want you to do mostly everything, how they want it done. Mark targets, click off regen, lead the group, know every fight, and psychically understand when you should bother taunting off the BLM/BRD and when to just let them burn the target.
3- Quite honestly, I do not think Squeenix has a handle on warriors or how to fix them. My experience with MMOs say you should play the class that you want, not the class you think it will be.

I think all these MMOs creators have it wrong. They always know tanks will be short supply, yet consistently make it the class that is the most demanding in terms of gear, knowledge, patience, and skill.

[Amyas]

I am giving up on tanking. Why?

1- I am a warrior and not a paladin. Paladins are the chosen ones, and I don't want to play as a mamsy-pamsy Paladin.

Don't give up on tanking, and don't give up on War! I just got out of a df AK run earlier, it was the scholar's first time healing a war, you know what he said? 'First time healing war and he's so good!' 'like healing a pld'. Needless to say it gave me a big head and I started to fudge it a bit on the next couple pulls, but we pushed on and cleared it with 83 mins remaining. They even said 'thanks for the great tanking'. Moments like that is what makes tanking worth it, even when you have to deal with toxic buttholes and downright dummies when you're still learning, or if you fudge it a bit. FIGHT ON COMRADE! Don't give up the axe just yet!

[Doctor-]

I actually started a tank using the power of this thread. It has been a very nice journey and I am enjoying it quite a lot. Currently level 42 just casually leveling which is almost there I got the points for relic and DL - titan shield - garuda sword ready to wear it so a bit excited about that. Finally I gotten a couple of DF situations but I quickly use the would you rather wait 1 hour in queue? and they usually shut up and suck it up and we get through the dungeon letting me do my own thing. Paladins if you are skilled enough to make judgements that are logical do not take the abuse!! FIGHT back.

[Sephirah]

I actually started a tank using the power of this thread. It has been a very nice journey and I am enjoying it quite a lot. Currently level 42 just casually leveling which is almost there I got the points for relic and DL - titan shield - garuda sword ready to wear it so a bit excited about that. Finally I gotten a couple of DF situations but I quickly use the would you rather wait 1 hour in queue? and they usually shut up and suck it up and we get through the dungeon letting me do my own thing. Paladins if you are skilled enough to make judgements that are logical do not take the abuse!! FIGHT back.

Rock on! ^_^