Shortage of Tank .......

[Ceol]

Shortage of tanks? Healers? Pfft
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You have a tank. He's floating behind you.

That's still cool, but I don't think you can claim you did it without a tank, and since SMNs can cure their pets pretty effectively (and have a decent party cure) it wouldn't exactly be fair to say you did it without a healer, as well.

[ChaozK]

You have a tank. He's floating behind you.

That's still cool, but I don't think you can claim you did it without a tank, and since SMNs can cure their pets pretty effectively (and have a decent party cure) it wouldn't exactly be fair to say you did it without a healer, as well.

Titan egi is actually just there to gloriously sacrifice himself to grudge (he cant hold hate anyhow, even if we wanted him to tank). Mainly the Dragoons are the tanks and swap hate between each other (sometimes the Bard would tank for a bit too). Running without a tank is not so much the problem, we run 3DD/1Heal pretty often (a DRG in DL can tank WP/AK just fine depending on the power of the healer). The bigger challenge was actually to see if we could do it without a proper healer.

[Luvbunny]

Titan egi is actually just there to gloriously sacrifice himself to grudge (he cant hold hate anyhow, even if we wanted him to tank).

Titan Egi can tank, it does need to be healed like any other tanks. And you do have to send it to several mobs via tabbing, unless the adds are being slept by your healer or blm. Otherwise all other dps would have to share hate. It is doable to do 3 DPS + healer (titan tank as SMN) on easy dungeons like WP, probable AK as well (have not tried AK but done WP as Titan tank).

[wormed]

As a Turn5 WAR/PLD, I've just recently gotten my MNK to level 50 and like William_Conroy said earlier, being a tank is just more work overall. The expectations are very high and any mistake is automatically blown up and made to be a bigger issue than it is. I got my MNK to 50 to honestly turn my brain off. It is so damn easy to just plug away at DPS skills and let the onus for a successful run be put onto someone else for a change.

I like tanking but tanking for people who don't appreciate a good run makes it very hard to do on a daily basis. I'm definitely enjoying my MNK at the moment. I'll save my tanking for my LS Coil group who appreciates it.

[Kuvu]

As a Turn5 WAR/PLD, I've just recently gotten my MNK to level 50 and like William_Conroy said earlier, being a tank is just more work overall. The expectations are very high and any mistake is automatically blown up and made to be a bigger issue than it is. I got my MNK to 50 to honestly turn my brain off. It is so damn easy to just plug away at DPS skills and let the onus for a successful run be put onto someone else for a change.

I like tanking but tanking for people who don't appreciate a good run makes it very hard to do on a daily basis. I'm definitely enjoying my MNK at the moment. I'll save my tanking for my LS Coil group who appreciates it.

I rolled up BLM for the same thing. I get so tired of putting up with peoples BS in a group and no matter what its always the tanks fault even when people are being douche bags and admit in group that they were intentionally attacking the wrong mob just to screw with me, iam still the bad guy, as a dps i dont have to do anything but blow shit up. The only time i tank now is when i run with LS mates or on coil, the tanking experience in coil is sooooo much better then dealing with DF dungeon runs.

[PSxpert2011]

Jeeez, I wonder why!

Instead of putting down paladins and warriors, it's best to encourage them! If any other game that I can remember leveling up Paladin, it's FFXI and that was no walk-in-the-park.

[DanteMog]

Because the class is terrible (especially at low levels), and so is the community.

I've tried its not fun.

[Wazabi]

given that I have to choose between less tank or more incompetent tank, I would choose less tank. A noob tank just waste everyone's time starting from Brayflox (lv32).

If you can't tank a level 20+ dungeon without being getting complained, you will either need to get down from your high ego, stop believing you're a special snowflake and learn, or just play DPS. Tanking comes naturally to most hardcore players, but to a casual players, the concept can be hard to grasp.

The way this game's dungeon is structured, even DPS can have a huge impact on the team...but at least that's a shortfall that the other competent players can cover to a certain extend.

Even though I never yell at tanks (at least in this game...looking at a lalafell always calms me down), but I can understand the frustration especially at higher level dungeon of a fail tank or any other class for that matter.

Some of the fail players that I've seen:
-A pally with blue gear that can't hold aggro properly in brayflox, and can't work out the boss mechanics.
-Tank that can't stay dodge brayflox AOE
-A healer that doesn't cast protect.
-A healer that doesn't do combat raise at lv32
-Noob summoner who's pet keep waking up cc targets
-Tank that only hold aggro on boss and doesn't care about adds
-Healer that DPS and get the tank killed.

[Elim]

I tried raising a tank. I wasn't planning on doing much endgame with it, but I thought it would be fun. A few times I was actually praised for my low-level nubby tanking. I'm pretty sure they were just being nice and trying to encourage me to keep learning. Haha. What put me off tanking is the DPS who refuse to kill things marked from 1-5(when they single target dps something). When I'm a new tank, learning exactly how to manage the mobs in a new dungeon, the very least a DPS can do is help me out by trying to stick to one target if they're not AoEing or dotting. Sure, I can still manage to hold most things when DPS don't listen...but that doesn't mean I'm not going to be annoyed.

I'm sticking to healing and DPSing. Tanking simply stresses me out.

[Tricksy]

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I'm sticking to healing and DPSing. Tanking simply stresses me out.

I have to agree tanking is a stressful and opften shitty job. Mayhaps specifically in this game because of the prevalence of insta kill mechanics and lack of ilvl screening in DF. Tank ultimatelyt gets blamed for everything, even after those some complainers spent the entire run ignoring our marks. haha

But I try to stay positive. Im leet geared now and most WP/AK DF's I get now have geared and exp'd individuals predominantly. So Id say now that the gear and experience of the majority has risen, being a tank will not be AS much an issue for me