Monk- general discussion and feedback

[AccountBanned]

I'm 100% sure MNK blows other dps away in fights without interruptions?

How are you sure? Have you tested damage? That 100% number is as high as it gets man...would kind of like some proof if you have it. Like I said, I've tested REAL fights and their mid-ranged in their damage. Feel free to really test it yourself on a stationary target...not sure what fight that will be though... maybe Snake in coil?

[NoctisUmbra]

How are you sure? Have you tested damage? That 100% number is as high as it gets man...would kind of like some proof if you have it. Like I said, I've tested REAL fights and their mid-ranged in their damage. Feel free to really test it yourself on a stationary target...not sure what fight that will be though... maybe Snake in coil?

Please do tell how these "tests" of yours took place. Is it basically you parsing your team's attempts and the monk(s) placing near the middle on the list?

For every test you have such as that, I can tell you I have just as many where I, as the only MNK, place on top. Caduceus included. As far as stationary, uninterrupted DPS goes, nothing even comes close to MNK DPS. MNK was designed with content where they would lose their buffs every now and then in mind.

Ultimate point: Unless you've ruled player skill as a variable out from your "tests" by asserting that you, personally, tested each and every DPS job with optimal play and found your MNK DPS to be in the mid-range of the spectrum, then you haven't really tested anything at all.

The reason I know you haven't is because your conclusion is incorrect. I mean, seriously. Next you'll try to tell me BRD had the most DPS lol.

[Alkimi]

I think all it needs is a slight increase in GL duration, making them decay one at a time would make Perfect Balance far less useful. MNK damage is already really good if played well.

[Meleena]

If anything the only imbalance in terms of defense is MNK having more HP than BRDs (which i dont disagree with).

Monk should be low Physical def and huge pool of HP, like warriors WITH his buff up.

[Esmian]

Yeah one-ilm punch seems like a skill that was made with absolutely no regards to the actual content in the game. One of the many design instances where it seems like the left hand had no idea what the right hand was doing.

Seeing as how one issue that seems to plague monks end game is that high skill speeds drain TP at an accelerated rate that even careful use of Invigorate can't keep up with, change one-ilm punch to help with that. Lower the potency to near 50 like AOTD and make it give a TP regen boost like a personal army's peon.

[Soukyuu]

About the only place I get to use one-ilm-punch is on dullahan when the party is slow and he manages to put up king's will. Pretty useless if you ask me, maybe they will add some encounters later on, but I personally doubt it.

As for losing GL on say, Ifrit/Garuda jumps, yes, it sucks, but it doesn't set us back as much as you feel it does.

Our AoE is pretty weak, but that's because AotD is an utility skill - and those are always low damage. What I'd like to see changed on AotD is that it doesn't require opo-opo form to induce silence. It requires a lot of timing to have opo-opo at the right moment.

Rockbreaker on the other hand I feel is quite good as it is.

Better aoe would be great. Monks are currently a big NO for WP.

Why? Our best WP run with WHM+PLD+DRG+BRD (all relic +1) = 20 minutes. Swapping it for similarly geared SCH+PLD+MNK+BLM (all relic +1, sch garuda)= 22 minutes. It's not that much of a difference if you ask me, and I'd argue SCH not having relic was more of an impact than me being mnk.

[Onyxys]

Why? Our best WP run with WHM+PLD+DRG+BRD (all relic +1) = 20 minutes. Swapping it for similarly geared SCH+PLD+MNK+BLM (all relic +1, sch garuda)= 22 minutes. It's not that much of a difference if you ask me, and I'd argue SCH not having relic was more of an impact than me being mnk.

Dragoon much better AoE-damager than monk. BArd and BlackMage maybe same. And dont forget, that Dragoon lowers piercing resistance for bard- it is a very strong combination of classes.

[CaptainCommando]

I agree all the way with this. and as for #6 lets just get rid of One Ilm punch and add in something like a Chi Blast...

I know we have Shoulder Tackle but it's not enough... too long of a GCD for one and only good for entering the battle/ use after being knocked back/ or switching to a new target "I.e. mobs in BC turn 4"..

and yes Buff up or add in something to make us at least useful with AoE's... PB with rock breaker spam is good but only for a bit.. then comes the GCD again.

Monk is a freaking fun class to play. I'll continue to play it but plz SE... there is nothing wrong with a slight Adjustment =)

[Naelle]

I'd suggest putting haymaker where one ilm is (adjusting damage if necessary) and changing one ilm punch to Wave Fist, a ranged attack that would possibly give 1 GL. It would be off GCD, decent cooldown, keep it's lower damage. Just having ONE skill every 30-60 seconds to not lose all 3 stacks of greased lightening because we can't reach the boss would be helpful. This wouldn't be able to jump us to 3 stacks right off but it would help us get to 2 in the first rotation against trash.

[Onyxys]

Monk have not any range skill. Maybe remove Ilm Punch and add something... Suriken...