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    It's a translation issue. The gladiator in this game isn't a reference to the fighters of the arena but simply a person who uses a sword. It is literally "sword user" in Japanese. The reason it is named gladiator in English is because gladius = sword in latin and thus gladiator = sword user.
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    I think you summed up the rolling list of concerns and have captured what i feel would be good in most aspects. Great job! I have many comments but to sum up my thoughts on your document in a sentence:


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    Crafting isn’t fun.


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    You nailed it... I go to sleep every time I craft. I don't mean I get tired or I wander off. I FALL ASLEEP IN MY CHAIR EVERY TIME.

    Thanks for the wonderful summary, there is too much to respond to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz0309 View Post
    How about a login feature that kicks you in the crotch anytime you go to play, that would be something that no other MMO has either.

    Just because its unique doesn't mean its good. But this is my opinion, and they can choose to keep the armory system and i'll just not play.
    And I really deserved that belligerent reply, didn't I?

    If you'd bothered to have read what gaming critics wrote about FFXIV, in the midst of their own belligerent ravings, most of them actually listed the Armory System as the game's best feature. I'm not saying everyone is going to like it, but certainly many respected gaming aficionados saw promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    And I really deserved that belligerent reply, didn't I?

    If you'd bothered to have read what gaming critics wrote about FFXIV, in the midst of their own belligerent ravings, most of them actually listed the Armory System as the game's best feature. I'm not saying everyone is going to like it, but certainly many respected gaming aficionados saw promise.
    Well it is a forum , and it was more of a smart ass reply than belligerent.

    Critics might love it. But critics don't play the game for weeks.. I liked the system, but when every class starts to be the same... well. It fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz0309 View Post
    Just because its unique doesn't mean its good. But this is my opinion, and they can choose to keep the armory system and i'll just not play.
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    That's the most Adult thing I 've heard anyone say about this in a long time. I just don't understand why no one else can come to that conclusion. If you don't like the game, don't play it......

    If you liked FFxi's class system (etc) better....go play that instead, it's a fun game!

    Because guess what folks?

    [whispers] This isn't Final Fantasy 11....
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    Well thought out suggestions, I think it's great that the devs take these into consideration. Could make me switch back to FFXIV if a lot of progress is made.
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    There aren't really any unique ideas left in the mmo world anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz0309 View Post
    The main issue i have with this game is the armory system... it needs to go. It literally sucks all the fun out of the game for me. I like having a class, and seeing what i can do within that class.
    If the main issue you have with the game is basically the whole game, you may as well go look for another.

    The armory system is great, and you can pretty much bet that it will stay.
    Do you really expect that, with that many people having spent a lot of time leveling multiple classes they will just tell "sorry, chose one, everything else is going to become wasted time"?

    Lack of basic realism is lack of basic realism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    If the main issue you have with the game is basically the whole game, you may as well go look for another.

    The armory system is great, and you can pretty much bet that it will stay.
    Do you really expect that, with that many people having spent a lot of time leveling multiple classes they will just tell "sorry, chose one, everything else is going to become wasted time"?

    Lack of basic realism is lack of basic realism.
    I think there is a good chance major changes will come to the armory system, as battle and class changes are high on the devs list. in the end the armory system you love so much might work completely different. Nothing is a good bet in this game right now.

    personally I dont like the armory system in its current form and dont like having my weapon determine what my class is. I prefer XI's system, though my favorite systemfor an MMO is totally skill based like UO or EVE no levels, but that dosent work for a Final Fantasy game i know. However, we dont have Chocobo's or airships in XIV so what do i know about what works in a Final Fantasy game
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyLurker View Post
    I think there is a good chance major changes will come to the armory system, as battle and class changes are high on the devs list. in the end the armory system you love so much might work completely different. Nothing is a good bet in this game right now.

    personally I dont like the armory system in its current form and dont like having my weapon determine what my class is. I prefer XI's system, though my favorite systemfor an MMO is totally skill based like UO or EVE no levels, but that dosent work for a Final Fantasy game i know. However, we dont have Chocobo's or airships in XIV so what do i know about what works in a Final Fantasy game
    Yoshida already clarified quite clearly that they're not going to remove anything the players have achieved, so you can be pretty much sure that the foundation of the armory system will stay as it is.

    They will most probably add on top of it, but if you hope people won't be able to switch class with their weapon freely, or to mix and match abilities, I think you'll be hoping for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoriki View Post
    Well it would be interesting to see if SE would at least acknowledge reading this.
    Probably not. As much as I applaud the effort, presenting an incredibly long wall of text (in a cumbersome format as PDF), basically saying "your whole game needs changing!" just with 1000x words isn't exactly functional or very constructive.
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