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    Shiaya Shalome
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    WHM No Cast Time Heals

    In the event of content where the healers have to move rapidly, it would be very helpful if SE would implement some sort of weaker healing spell that is instantly casted.

    This would open up doors for boss mechanics where the healer would be forced to move and yet be able to heal the rest of the group.

    Also, an aoe instant heal ability would be very helpful in this case as well.

    I feel like we are very limited with these cast times, and this will prevent future content where we are constantly on the move, open a door so we can heal while moving with something other than swift cast >> heal or plain ole regen.

    Any thoughts, opinions, suggestions, ideas on this other healers?

    Would look forward to hear what others have to say on this topic and maybe what SE might implement provided we get enough feedback on this particular topic.

    Adios and Venture forth into the Abyssal Depths of Eorzea!
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    Lusian Royalt
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    You could try rolling with a SCH if you feel that you are experiencing this. The bubbles that SCH provide prevent some of that dmg and aids a WHM's regen and swift cast medica 2's regen to cover any mobile healing that needs getting done.

    That said, I can't really see them adding such spells to a WHM's kit w/o doing something similar to SCH and that would change both classes quite a bit from what they are now. Also consider that they would take such things into consideration when designing content so WHM/SCH will never have to worry that they will get caught in any situation that they lack the tools for if both are present.

    Also, you usually don't see these kinds of changes so soon after a games release as they are typically something that is done between xpacs, so I wouldn't expect any such drastic changes to gameplay just yet.
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    Dernière modification de Alu79, 19/10/2013 à 15h30

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    Liadan Summerfield
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    That's why you level Thaum to 26 for Swiftcast.
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    Omega Flare
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    Malboro
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    WHM does have an instant heal. It's called "regen". It is the strongest healing spell per mana and it casts instantly. WHM are op as they are right now so I don't think they should get buffed anymore. It'd be nice but not necessary. It all depends on the skills of the players.
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    Phoenix
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    Citation Envoyé par OmegaFlare Voir le message
    WHM are op as they are right now so I don't think they should get buffed anymore.
    Lolno. No class is 'OP' some players are better than others, if White Mage was OP why isn't it also used and why do people fail Titan and Coil? Your logic is flawed.
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    Citation Envoyé par Animation Voir le message
    Lolno. No class is 'OP' some players are better than others, if White Mage was OP why isn't it also used and why do people fail Titan and Coil? Your logic is flawed.
    Arnold Schwarzenegger is op but Chuck Norris would stomp him nontheless.
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    I could imagine a stance like DDo´s quickening (double manacost double spellspeed immune to interrups). But giving instants would make it too easy. With a stance like that you still could screw things up if maintaining it too long. But I guess it would just result in LFM Crystaltower 3/24 only bardslots left.
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    Lusian Royalt
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    Citation Envoyé par LiadansWhisper Voir le message
    That's why you level Thaum to 26 for Swiftcast.
    Citation Envoyé par OmegaFlare Voir le message
    WHM does have an instant heal. It's called "regen". It is the strongest healing spell per mana and it casts instantly. WHM are op as they are right now so I don't think they should get buffed anymore. It'd be nice but not necessary. It all depends on the skills of the players.
    You two clearly didn't read his post or you would know he mentions both those spells and fully understands how they function. No need to talk down on him.

    Citation Envoyé par Sinaloa Voir le message
    I could imagine a stance like DDo´s quickening (double manacost double spellspeed immune to interrups). But giving instants would make it too easy. With a stance like that you still could screw things up if maintaining it too long. But I guess it would just result in LFM Crystaltower 3/24 only bardslots left.
    WHM can get something similar to this (tho much much weaker in effect) by chaining Swift+Sure+what ever heal. The way WHM mana regen/recovery works currently, this would be a very dangerous option they way you describe it as they would feel it either sucks and can't use it due to mana limitations OR they will end up demanding a bard be present for all content in order to use it so they feel viable. Granted BRDs are dime a dozen, they are not currently needed for WHM viability. That spell suggestion would introduce the perception of non-viability w/o a BRD present. Considering all that they do and bring to the table they already border on being required.
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Citation Envoyé par Alu79 Voir le message
    You two clearly didn't read his post or you would know he mentions both those spells and fully understands how they function. No need to talk down on him.
    I wasn't talking down to him, and I did read his post. But thanks for trying!

    Citation Envoyé par Lumines Voir le message
    An instant AoE heal given to the WHM would be totally redundant and unnecessary. A single target instant heal with a cool down however, I see more reasonable. However, as it is, WHMs are pretty much on top in terms of emergency heals, I can't see them buffing them further on what is already their biggest strength.
    Benediction is a single-target instant heal on a CD.
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    Ser Kumcision
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    Goblin
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    ^^ Exactly, which is why I don't think WHMs would need any changes at this point. OP is suggesting an AoE Instant Heal, they're not going to add that. If any instant heal were added to the WHM, it'd be more along the lines of Holy Shock of Holy Paladins.
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