RMT: Goldceo VS SE, SE losing

[mmcsky]

If I was SE I would make bank out of RMTs, put a clause on your user agreement where if caught RMT and the proof was solid they could fine your account till you talked to them and settle your account with a lawyer. Kinda like a pseudo lawsuit, talk to us and get sued or we take your money kinda deal.

[sasakusaku]

Set up a gem card system or something and watch the gold farmers go away.

If you make a game that allows them to profit, they WILL come and they WILL take over. They don't care about you, me, the game developer, the health of the game or it's economy: bottom line is making money. If they have to jack your account and strip it for a measly 25 cents, they will and then wipe out all your characters for extra good measure just because. If their antics drive a game out of business, again who cares...there's always other new games to infest!

So if a dev actually controls their in-game 'money' then gold farmers won't bother.

Need proof it works? Well, check out Eve and GW2; gold farmers lost and moved ON. Heck with bandaid solutions that never work!

This might be pay to win but it all depends on how you set it up.

[anceru]

did anyone consider the possibility of SE deliberately sabotaging the counter RMT features to get as much money out of them as possible?

[Naunet]

Set up a gem card system or something and watch the gold farmers go away.

You don't need a full-blown money-to-gil market. Just sell items that can be redeemed in-game for a month of sub time (a la, yes, Eve, as well as TERA and more recently, WildStar). Restrict the number of these items you can purchase and list on the broker per month, make them untradeable so they can only be sold via broker, and poof. The implementation of chronoscrolls in TERA nixed gold farming spam to pretty much zilch.

This is 2013. Show me someone who doesn't have a smartphone.

Anyone who doesn't have disposable income for a data plan or who simply doesn't want one. This would include myself. No smartphone here!

[Ghammer]

if they had a function that locks your account when someone from another IP tries to log in that could help(they have it for GW2 it works pretty well). also make it so you cant whisper till level 10 or something unless its under your friends list.

[Nikorayu]

This is 2013. Show me someone who doesn't have a smartphone.

Really? Alright. I will tell you something. Many, many people don't have smartphones. Me included. I don't need a redundant smartphone when a mobile phone is enough for me... and I rarely even use it. I have a budget, so I can't just throw money at a smartphone even if I wanted one.

There. You got what you wanted.

[Hikozaemon]

i made a thread on the JP forums in which Foxclon brushed the whole thing off with this bleh response.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%8B%EF%BC%9F

[Noshpan]

So long as there is demand, there will always be someone willing to supply.

I had noticed that the RMT shouts were worst in Ul'dah, so I would try to avoid that city as much as possible.

Last time I checked there were 8 GoldCEO RMT on Leviathan and, last night, it felt like I had been messaged by all of them.

At the very least, I wish that there was a far more effective means to report gil-sellers, which feature automatically puts the offending RMT on "mute".

[Issac]

Come to think of it, over on Masamune I haven't gotten an RMT advert for some time now, am I just lucky?

[Starlord]

When SE bans RMT, they ban by account right? If they do, what exactly is the purpose to keep buying codes to get new accounts? Can't they block IP addresses?