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    Garlean Naming Conventions

    So, awhile back I made a thread pertaining to Garlean naming conventions. The original can be found here. I decided to revitalize it, as we ended up eventually getting this reply from Fernehalwes:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes
    No time for a WMD, so this firecracker will have to suffice until the loremaster and I can put together a complete post.

    FUN FACT: The 'middle names' of the Garelans who have appeared in XIV represent their relative position within the Empire's sociopolitical structure (including the Imperial Army).

    BREAK!
    Seeing as ARR is finally out, I was hoping we might finally get the update we've been waiting so very long for. We've learned a lot since the game has released, but we're still lacking confirmation on so many things related to the Garleans, their language, and their naming conventions. This recent post by Mtoto Wamoto seems to hit the nail on the head with a lot of what we've learn from ARR's storyline.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtoto Wamoto
    Actually, I have a bit of info considering we just recently got some new names to the list.

    Nero Tol Scaeva - Nero is likely just a direct rip from Latin, which means powerful, strong, vigorous. Tol is likely the naming title for his rank as Tribunus Laticlavius. In the Roman army, the tribunus laticlavius stands directly below the legatus and above the other five tribune known as the tribuni angusticlavii. His last name could be related to the genus of hover flies of the same name...hover as in, "Let me hover over this cliff and spy on you."

    Livia Sas Junius - Livia is probably a reference to the wife of Augustus, first emperor of Rome. The name means olive in Latin. Sas is likely reference to her rank of Tribuni Angusticlavii. Junius could be either lunius or junius, both meaning June. It could also be reference to Juno, the Roman goddess of marriage and queen of gods.

    Rhitahtyn Sas Arvina - Because he isn't of Garlean blood and is from a subjugated land, he doesn't receive the typical Latin name. Instead, he is given a traditional Roegadyn name. Rhit in ancient Roegadyn translates to Right, and Ahtyn translates to Judge. His first name literally translates to Right Judge. Sas is likely reference to his rank as Praefectus Castrorum, which if we go by Roman ranking, is pretty much the same rank as tribuni angusticlavii, both being the third most seat in a legion following the Legatus and the Tribunus Laticlavius. His last name, Arvina, may actually be Latin. Arvina is defined as meaning fat, perhaps in reference to his size. Coincidentally, Gaius Papirius Carbo, a Roman tribune in 90 BC, was known for the law which he carried and was surnamed Arvina. Law...Judge...Arvina...Hey...something smells fishy here, Ferne!

    So, here's my personal updated list of Garlean 'middle names'.

    Military
    Van - Legatus
    Tol - Tribunus Laticlavius (Second in command)
    Sas - Tribuni Angusticlavii, Praefectus Castrorum (Third in command)

    Royal Court
    Zos - Emperor

    Scientist/Engineers
    Nan - Engineer

    Also slighty off topic, but if I had to bet...I'd wager to say that the whole Color Animal title that Gaius and Nael have aren't exclusive to those who hold the rank of Legatus.

    Nero's helm appears to be that of a dragon, or even a drake. I wouldn't be surprised if his other title is the Red Dragon, Crimson Drake, or something along those lines.

    Livia's is interesting because her helm is rather....oddly shaped. Since her weapons are actually mounted to her, maybe they play in the design and the source of her name. I don't want to put a whole lot of faith behind it, but perhaps its another bird reference. But then we'd have two white color and bird names. Not sure the power rangers would approve. Perhaps instead of white, her title uses Ivory, or Alabaster, both very precious and valuable materials. It could match up since her weapons are named Aglea, which is Greek for splendor, brilliant, and shining one. As for her animal name...I've no idea. Maybe she's a turtle. THE ALABASTER TURTLE.

    Rhitahtyn seems somewhat obvious to me, but I'm ready to be wrong. My guess is that he goes by the Black Bull, if not the Onyx Bull or some other synonym of black. His weapons, Tartarus, is likely a reference to the Greek mythos of the same name which is the infernal regions where the wicked are punished. In Roman mythology, Tartarus is the place where sinners are sent. His weapon names seem fitting for judgement, living up to his translated name as the Right Judge. Maybe he is the Onyx Bull of Judgement. Who knows.
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    This is awesome.

    Thanks for the great read!
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    Hah! Interesting!
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    Still hoping for that WMD of tasty Garlean naming conventions, Ferne! :>
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    As an empire, we're still missing titles for Empress, crown heir, prince, princess, herald, vassal kings, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    As an empire, we're still missing titles for Empress, crown heir, prince, princess, herald, vassal kings, etc
    The empire is actually only a few decades old at this point, and Solus zos Galvus has no current heir. It's actually a really interesting subject, as the Imperial court is supposedly in turmoil while people fight for the throne as Galvus grows old and weak. I'm not even sure if they have titles for such cases, as they simply haven't had a chance to exist yet. The "zos" prefix seems to pertain to the emperor, though, so I imagine an empress would bear the same title. They don't seem to be gender specific. (Rhitatyn sas Arvina and Livia sas Junius both being Tribuni Angusticalviu, for example.)
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    Looking good so far. I've been accumulating similar info here on this page quietly for a little bit. The only one you're missing is the middle name "rem" which so far as only been attached to one Pilus Prior (head of a cohort's first century). Aulus rem Vulso, part of the FATE Below His Station, is/was the leader of the 1st Century of the 3rd Cohort stationed at Castrum Oriens in the Black Shroud.
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    Did you see, did you see? Garlean naming conventions hidden in the game... Visit your local library!

    Royalty
    • Zos - The emperor
    • Yae - Member of the royal family in the line of succession
    • Wir - Member of the royal family with no claim to the throne
    Military
    • Van - Legatus
    • Tol - Tribunus laticlavius or Tribunus militum
    • Sas - Tribunus angusticlavius or Praefectus castrorum
    • Rem - Primus pilus or Pilus prior
    • Quo - Primi ordines or Centurion
    • Pyr - Optio, Tesserarius, or Decurion
    • Oen - Duplicarius or Legionarius
    Specialists
    • Nan - Chief engineer or engineer
    • Mal - Primus medicus or senior magitek technician
    • Lux - Chief medicus or magitek technician
    • Kir - Senior medicus or senior technician
    • Jen - Medicus or technician
    Public Officials
    • Iyl - Dictator or Princeps senatus
    • Het - Consul, Praetor, Tribunus plebis, Aedilis, or Quaestor
    • Goe - Censor
    • Fae - Unknown
    • Eir - Unknown
    • Dus - Lictor.
    General Populace
    • Cen - Adopted by respected artisans
    • Ban - Vast majority of Imperial citizenry
    • Aan - Peoples of annexed territories lacking even the most basic rights
      • Many Garleans see the "aan" title as an opportunity, not a condemnation, as someone bearing said title can be raised above that station with exceptional skill or twenty years of military service.
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    Looks like its reverse alphabetical Z is the top while A is the bottom. E and F are unknown currently.
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    Interesting that there are no titles with X or U in them..
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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