.3 Second Positional Update Delay (Requesting Dev Response)

[SakuraInoue]

Why is this not on first page anymore? >.>

While it's nice to be able to cast esuna while running, I don't think that was intended...

[Citizen_Thom]

This should be stickied until the design is fixed

[Sunarie]

The point wasn't to point out the similarity in threads. The point was to point out that the moderator basically said, "I have seen no one else complaining about lag, therefore it must no longer exist." And ANYONE who takes a minute to click the "Today's Posts" link at the forum top will see about 5 threads per day with that exact subject matter.

The point was to show that SE is just blatantly ignoring any issue regarding server performance.

Pre-note: This rant isn't directed at you. Quoted because the first sentence or two was in response.

Oh, I know they're ignoring it, but lag is a different issue itself altogether, and the mod is right there. I haven't seen people complain about it, just the server not recognizing where your character is. The accepted bug thing gives me hope, because what is listed there (that a mod didn't just dismiss) is exactly the issue. I'm attempting to keep a few (2) different threads bumped until I quit playing entirely. My patience is probably going to last about as long as my 3 month subscription. Until then, that's really the only thing I can do to make the issue visible, and be very clear that it's still an issue.

Being, said I do love the game otherwise. I would like to keep playing, but every time I get hit by something I was out of it destroys the fun of playing. I know it's that way for many other people, and it isn't always predictable, nor are all the skills for fights always completely predictable. I can judge approximately when Repelling Cannons will go off, but unless I'm dragging the boss this way and that way with me, I can't really pre-move out of it, and my timing is likely going to be off a good few seconds each time. Not to say I get hit by it every time. Sometimes I make it out of it just fine.

I also don't understand why people want the posts about it to just go away (because then for sure it wouldn't get addressed, as that lag thread you posted). That's not helping the game, threads like these aren't hurting the community, no one is being nasty to each other (for the large majority of the thread anyway). If we accept it as is, without SE coming out and saying they're no longer willing to look into it, then we're letting them off the hook for something game breaking.. and something that is so far out from what the industry standard is. If SE comes out an goes "we're not considering this an issue" in a way like that accepted bug being moved to the resolved/closed section, then so be it.. and many of us can make decisions based on that. Until then, it's up in the air and just a patience game.

[TheRac25]

the server does know where your charactor is or we would see dead bodies sliding around like the 1.0 days, so there is a more serious issue with race conditions and unsynched threads on the server

[Astarica]

the server does know where your charactor is or we would see dead bodies sliding around like the 1.0 days, so there is a more serious issue with race conditions and unsynched threads on the server

Race condition implies the winner is not certain. There's no such issue here. The server ALWAYS wins no matter what it looks like to you. The problem is that the winner (the server) is operating from an environment that the player is basically not able to see on time.

[Mandze]

I don't have anything to add, but I wanted to thank the OP for posting those videos, as that is *exactly* what I am seeing on my screen when I try to dodge out of the red areas. I've spent the last month thinking I must just be terrible at this game because I can't dodge things, and it has really been bothering me-- it is kind of a relief to know I'm not alone.

[Sunarie]

I don't have anything to add, but I wanted to thank the OP for posting those videos, as that is *exactly* what I am seeing on my screen when I try to dodge out of the red areas. I've spent the last month thinking I must just be terrible at this game because I can't dodge things, and it has really been bothering me-- it is kind of a relief to know I'm not alone.

Definitely not alone at all, which is all the more reason to keep the thread bumped up

Out of everyone in my FC, I'm the only one that comes to the forums at all. Most don't care about the game enough to spend any extra time trying to get the issue fixed or reporting it. They basically stick to going "I know you guys don't wanna hear this, but I was totally out of that".. and then others sighing and going "I know".. and that's that, they'll quit the game before taking the extra time to report an issue. So I'm kinda representing all of them as well, and I know a few others are in the same boat (representing entire groups that flat out don't do game forums).

[zaineal]

Race condition implies the winner is not certain. There's no such issue here. The server ALWAYS wins no matter what it looks like to you. The problem is that the winner (the server) is operating from an environment that the player is basically not able to see on time.

Which means the 0.3 is not a bug it is working as intended. They just need to up the accuracy.

[TheRac25]

Race condition implies the winner is not certain. There's no such issue here. The server ALWAYS wins no matter what it looks like to you. The problem is that the winner (the server) is operating from an environment that the player is basically not able to see on time.

healing yourself for more than the next hit, then getting confirmation of it and still dieing is proof of a race condition
it is race conditions cause by unsynched threads of execution on the server
moving out of an aoe and having a chance of still being hit by it when the server knows exactly where you are is by definition a race condition

[Khalette]

The more I progress the more this becomes a problem. I absolutely cannot believe this is intentional.

They REALLY need to look at the clunky game mechanisms and try to fix them. No amount of content is going to make up for a clunky game.