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    Quote Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath View Post
    So i'm ignorant now lol? Okie little one. Whatever you say. You accuse others of starting arguments, and yet you come into this thread and totally try to derail it? My stuff HAS been tested mister know everything. And infact everything i have is designed just for online gaming. And judging by the fact that i have no issues with any other game i play online, just this one, kinda makes me think this is a fault with SE. But i guess since you're here to say it's our stuff, we should take your word for it, because we're ignorant and you're not.
    I came into the thread offering suggestions. You threw a fit over a few words i typed. I pointed that out. You have been nothing but hostile towards me. There was nothing hostile in my original post, i just offered help as i am sure not everyone who is suffering from lag is just suffering because of the .3 delay built into the game. I offered suggestions on other causes. I mean wouldn't it be nice if you could fix your problem? I guess you would rather just scream and shout at people who are trying to be helpful.

    As Tupsi pointed out some ISP's are treating FFXIV as a P2P and throttling it. Which means massive lag. Which is also another thing it could be.

    If you look back you will see i offered help. I then got a mouthful off 2-3 people and here we are. I never stated i knew everything. I just offered things that might be overlooked. If you are 100% sure that all your equipment and ISP are 100% fine then fair enough. It is no reason to stomp on someone who basically tried to be helpful.

    Also please tell me how your stuff was tested. Also what brand etc it all is as i am very interested in this specially designed equipment you have for online gaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    If you look back you will see i offered help. I then got a mouthful off 2-3 people and here we are. I never stated i knew everything. I just offered things that might be overlooked. If you are 100% sure that all your equipment and ISP are 100% fine then fair enough. It is no reason to stomp on someone who basically tried to be helpful.
    You sound pretty hostile to me.

    People complaining about the lag issues aren't riding their first rodeo. We've played other online games without this lag. I've played other new MMOs that suffered from problems like this.

    Denialism is not helping the game. I sincerely hope Square doesn't dismiss their netcode, animation delays, graphics engine, whatever problems as merely random complaints. It's borderline game-breaking given the mechanics they've programmed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dliver View Post
    You sound pretty hostile to me.

    People complaining about the lag issues aren't riding their first rodeo. We've played other online games without this lag. I've played other new MMOs that suffered from problems like this.

    Denialism is not helping the game. I sincerely hope Square doesn't dismiss their netcode, animation delays, graphics engine, whatever problems as merely random complaints. It's borderline game-breaking given the mechanics they've programmed in.
    Please tell me how this is hostile...

    So have all you people tried anything to fix this issue yourselves? I mean it is all well and good pointing the finger at SE but it would effect everyone if it was something SE could fix.
    Why would some people lag and other not lag?
    I am in the UK and i can get out of circles without problem. I do not lag either unless it is a really busy area and that is normal for an MMO.
    Have you guys tried turning your game graphics down as low as it can go for instance?
    How about plugging your router into the Master Socket (for phone line users)
    Just because lots of people lag doesn't mean you are all suffering from the same cause.
    How about moving cordless phones away from routers?
    Not using wireless?
    Even mobile phones can effect things.

    This is not hostile, this asking straight forward questions. Not everybody has the same level of knowledge. Offering help is now a crime is it? Just because some people are effected by the issues in this thread are you suggesting that it is impossible for someone to stumble into the thread and mistake all the talk of lag and mistake it for some other easy to fix problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    Please tell me how this is hostile...
    Again, your denialism is annoying beyond belief.

    I can assure you I've played WoW, Rift and SWTOR on this comp without significant lag issues. This game, no. There are lag spikes, there are animation delays, there are unregistered actions, there are problems.

    These problems are very similar to what I saw in the very early days of SWTOR. So I have every reason to believe it's a fixable issue on Square's end.

    I have no reason to believe you, and you have no reason to suggest that other people are somehow at fault for their lag, throwing out obvious suggestions that aren't helpful at all.

    If you have an actual suggestion that could cause lag in just this game and not every other online activity, please suggest it. In the meantime, your denialism offends me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dliver View Post
    Again, your denialism is annoying beyond belief.

    I can assure you I've played WoW, Rift and SWTOR on this comp without significant lag issues. This game, no. There are lag spikes, there are animation delays, there are unregistered actions, there are problems.

    These problems are very similar to what I saw in the very early days of SWTOR. So I have every reason to believe it's a fixable issue on Square's end.

    I have no reason to believe you, and you have no reason to suggest that other people are somehow at fault for their lag, throwing out obvious suggestions that aren't helpful at all.

    If you have an actual suggestion that could cause lag in just this game and not every other online activity, please suggest it. In the meantime, your denialism offends me.
    1 hop on route to a server could cause a problem in 1 game leaving all others fine.
    1 game being treated as P2P while all others are not could cause problems in one game leaving all others fine.
    Also if all other game servers are your own country and you have defective hardware this could hide lag that would show up far more on a server outside your own country.
    Also i was not saying that there was not a delay on SE end. It is well documented. I only pointed out that some people may stumble into this thread and stop looking for fixes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    1 hop on route to a server could cause a problem in 1 game leaving all others fine.
    1 game being treated as P2P while all others are not could cause problems in one game leaving all others fine.
    Also if all other game servers are your own country and you have defective hardware this could hide lag that would show up far more on a server outside your own country.
    Also i was not saying that there was not a delay on SE end. It is well documented. I only pointed out that some people may stumble into this thread and stop looking for fixes.
    Dude, enough. This thread is not about network lag. Unfortunately many people keep using that word. Lag != Position update delay. I could plug directly into their hubs in the data center and the position update delay would still be a thing. It is a thing for everyone. EVEYRONE!

    So people coming to this thread to comment who are effected by the design flaw more than others, can we please stop using the word Lag here. It gets inane useless comments like the ones from this user, which in a thread about network latency would actually be relevant. Lets call it PUD if we need to refer to it in three letters.

    Personally my game play is largely unaffected, mostly because I get 90 FPS almost everywhere. Even when my system bogs my FPS does not dip low enough for any frames to be lost. People with lower end pcs that suffer frame loss will be very effected by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azethoth View Post
    Dude, enough. This thread is not about network lag. Unfortunately many people keep using that word. Lag != Position update delay. I could plug directly into their hubs in the data center and the position update delay would still be a thing. It is a thing for everyone. EVEYRONE!
    Well that was what i was trying to get at. People throwing the word lag around. Coming into here and thinking their lag is to do with the delay. Which is why i was asking people to do simple checks. Instead i get hostility and now you are gonna start on my case as well? lol

    I know the thread isn't about network lag. If you read all of my posts you would see that.
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