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    Stench's Avatar
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    I got killed standing behind the stone in Garuda. Ran, stood, then bang... Flattened.
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    Still need an answer SE.
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    Eara Weaver
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    Neither myself or any people I play with have an issue with this.

    Not a single person has an issue in my FC, who has 4 groups on T5.
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someonewithclap View Post
    Neither myself or any people I play with have an issue with this.

    Not a single person has an issue in my FC, who has 4 groups on T5.
    Honestly, good for you guys. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for a lot of people. This is going to cost some people spots in raid groups. If I can't get into end game groups because I keep getting hit by AOEs out side of the damage area, then why pay for the game once I finish the story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Honestly, good for you guys. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for a lot of people.
    And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

    Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "
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    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

    Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "
    Well, asking tons of people to do a bunch of upgrades when the game works perfectly fine with everything else is not a good way to keep customers. My connection shows as excellent, the game runs flawlessly with everything maxed (even when there are 50+ people on the screen during fates). Spending hundreds to "maybe" eliminate this issue is not an option for me.
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    Virtual On
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

    Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "
    Because EVERYONE is affected by it, just by varying degrees. You aren't not effected by it, it's just not something you can notice on your end.

    And no, it's not our problems. When I can fire up Rift/WAR/Aion/Tera/GW2/Diablo 3/LoL and have zero problems, ever, then it is something SE has done differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Because EVERYONE is affected by it, just by varying degrees. You aren't not effected by it, it's just not something you can notice on your end.

    And no, it's not our problems. When I can fire up Rift/WAR/Aion/Tera/GW2/Diablo 3/LoL and have zero problems, ever, then it is something SE has done differently.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P2P-throttling

    Pretty sure SE wouldn't have requested this information for awhile now if there's zero possibility (as you just stated) of it being on our side. SE doesn't run our ISPs, yet it's known ISPs throttle P2P traffic which some reported affect their XIV gameplay. The only thing differently SE did was their packet handling and client design, which as we've proven is way more open than it should be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bixby View Post
    Yes, there are some issues that players can and should alleviate. But you seem to be just as much in denial that this could be SE's problem as anyone else is that it could be their own.
    Considering a full PC upgrade fixed my issues with this? It's not 'denial', it's the simple fact in my personal experience it's clear there's more variables than: "It's SE's fault." In my upgrade I didn't even change manufacturers, using newer parts by the same people. Nor did I touch my ISP package or modem/router.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 11-19-2013 at 12:20 AM.

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    Ampersand Kai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "
    For many people who meet the minimum system requirements, or who play on the PS3, FATE bosses don't load once the FATE becomes crowded enough. For people with hardware far enough over the minimum requirements, this is not a problem.

    This is not those players' problem. It is SE's. The game is broken for those players. It should not be.

    It is entirely possible for a game to be broken for certain segments of its players and not others. It is also entirely possible for the problems causing the breakage to not be those players' responsibility. It happens constantly. That's why there are bug fixes. That's why most of the bug fixes you'll ever see listed affect "certain players" or occur in "certain circumstances."

    Yes, there are some issues that players can and should alleviate. But you seem to be just as much in denial that this could be SE's problem as anyone else is that it could be their own.
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    I don't know why there is a (Requesting Dev Response) in the subject of this thread. It's slightly off topic, but people need to stop posting that. Community reps are ranked lower than CS support. They are basically Marketing pushers that copy paste what they are told and what looks good on the PR scale. They don't have any pull to get a change done or talk to the people to make said change (the Japanese community reps MIGHT have some pull, but don't count on it). They essentially post canned responses pre translated for them making them a little better than a bot script.


    To get movement on any issue, you have to get in touch with someone that has a direct pipeline to get stuff done (Which would be project leads. I doubt YoshiP has any kind of sway to alter the dev sprint cycle for the week. He seems more like a glorified PR rep than anything else) and that person would need to be in good "standing" with the leads and have to make the case to WHY this change would be beneficial. Being in the same office where the work gets done is almost required.

    English Community reps are laughably worthless with their copy/paste propaganda and an actual dev response is flat out not going to happen (language barrier/the mindset of dev departments thinking they are "above" talking to their customers).

    Don't forget that there is no lag! You're camera isn't zoomed out far enough. God help you if you're zoomed in all the way. The world may implode.
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