Can we add some complexity to combat? Skill chains and magic bursts ??

[Combinatoric]

Does anyone else feel there's something missing from combat in FFXIV? It just seems super generic. As things are, interaction between players during combat is just like every other "holy trinity (tank/healer/dd)" MMO out there. Tanks worry about positioning and mitigation, DD worry about dealing damage without pulling hate, and healers worry about healing tanks and DD that take hits. All while everyone tries to stay out of puddles. You can find these kinds of challenges in tons of other games.

Meanwhile, the Skill Chain & Magic Burst (SC/MB) system from FFXI was a FF unique combat mechanic that gave great rewards to groups capable of time-sensitive coordination. I recognize that 1) FFXIV shouldn't be an FFXI clone and 2) FFXIV combat is a bit fast for the SC/MB system of yore, but I think there's room add in SC/MB concepts/mechanics, at least for boss fights.

[PallasLloyd]

It just seems super generic.

Working as intended.

[KiriA500]

Making it to where people use the same cookie cutter skills to get the best results is super generic and boring. No thanks.

[PandaPause]

Even FFXI the game that made SC/MB moved away from it. I don't see it coming back in this game.

[Combinatoric]

Even FFXI the game that made SC/MB moved away from it. I don't see it coming back in this game.

This may be the sad truth

Making it to where people use the same cookie cutter skills to get the best results is super generic and boring. No thanks.

You obviously don't know what you're responding to, so I've included a link to resources on the topic. You're welcome. Skill chains - Magic bursts

[KiriA500]

You obviously don't know what you're responding to, so I've included a link to resources on the topic. You're welcome. Skill chains - Magic bursts

I played FFXI. DISTORTION: THE GAME isn't fun.

(This is a reference to having to use Distortion quite often because all you fought in XI was stuff that was weak to ice, mainly crabs.)

[Combinatoric]

I played FFXI. DISTORTION: THE GAME isn't fun.

Well I stand corrected then, my apologies. It's hard to sort through the tard replies on here sometimes.

Do you just think it's impossible to balance this type of mechanic out so that it's varied / fun?

As things stand you have your rotation, and if you're not nubcake then you've got macros that reduce the complexity of it. All of your meta attention is being paid to not standing in puddles. There has to be some sort of way they can give us a inter-player coordination similar to sc/mb that requires coordination. That's all I'm looking for really, some way of introducing timed coordination in combat.

[Bizniztyme]

This may be the sad truth



You obviously don't know what you're responding to, so I've included a link to resources on the topic. You're welcome. Skill chains - Magic bursts

LOL, how many of those do people actually used. I played FFXI from NA launch til recently and I can't remember ever using more then a couple of them at any given time. You always wait until your TP builds up and use the strongest one you got at the time. No variations at all. Don't get me wrong, I loved FFXI but you making this skill chains and magic bursts thing better and more complicated than it actually is or was. I for one think they can do so much with the limit break system but Yoshi seems to have that mindset that every job should be equal and balanced that's why we have what we have now.

[BoomerOU]

Does anyone else feel there's something missing from combat in FFXIV? It just seems super generic. As things are, interaction between players during combat is just like every other "holy trinity (tank/healer/dd)" MMO out there. Tanks worry about positioning and mitigation, DD worry about dealing damage without pulling hate, and healers worry about healing tanks and DD that take hits. All while everyone tries to stay out of puddles. You can find these kinds of challenges in tons of other games.
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Why repost this exact same thread daily? Every one of the threads you've created is about this. Is it because most replies aren't in support of the feature?

[Combinatoric]

Why repost this exact same thread daily? Every one of the threads you've created is about this. Is it because most replies aren't in support of the feature?

Honestly? Just trying to get a few intelligent responses on the topic to see what people think. The majority of responses are over simplifications.