Provoke = Useless?

[Mrydeen]

It also (Full resists) in Fates, when someone outside of you party is the enmity target.

[Exrage]

It also (Full resists) in Fates, when someone outside of you party is the enmity target.

Incorrect, tested both solo and with two alternating parties provoke managed to add their target's aggro +1 every time.

[Kraze]

Incorrect, tested both solo and with two alternating parties provoke managed to add their target's aggro +1 every time.

Wrong-o...

[Nova_Dresden]

Incorrect, tested both solo and with two alternating parties provoke managed to add their target's aggro +1 every time.

I've pulled with it to get threat, but any other uses in a FATE have been 100% resisted regardless of level.

[Sephirah]

I've pulled with it to get threat, but any other uses in a FATE have been 100% resisted regardless of level.

You should only be using it to pull specific mobs away from other groups if you're using it to initiate combat (like the succubi in AK). And unless you're in the party of the person the mob is currently attacking at a FATE it will do nothing, because they aren't in your party.

Provoke is very useful, people just need to learn that it IS NOT a "hey attack me for 5 seconds" button. You HAVE to use it on something not targeting you, and you HAVE to follow it up with damage, a combo'd rage of halone is ideal if it's upclose, but a shield lob works if they are too far away, just might take a bit more.

If you're using it on something that is currently attacking you, grats, you just added 1 enmity and lost your cooldown for 30 seconds.

[Nova_Dresden]

You should only be using it to pull specific mobs away from other groups if you're using it to initiate combat (like the succubi in AK). And unless you're in the party of the person the mob is currently attacking at a FATE it will do nothing, because they aren't in your party.

My comment was specific to FATEs, and even in a party it won't pull threat during FATEs. Cover's my only option when in a FATE with my friends in a party because Provoke shows resisted every time. In dungeons I pull with Shield Lob, or wait for a Sleep to go off and Flash the group on their way to the sleeper.

[Xorn]

It also (Full resists) in Fates, when someone outside of you party is the enmity target.

Ok that makes sense considering that is 95% of what I've been doing lately

[Ehayte]

Ok that makes sense considering that is 95% of what I've been doing lately

That would be the case then : D - all FATE mobs are immune, because you could walk up to a FATE boss, hit provoke when it has 1% health left, and get Gold because the award is based on enmity.

I was brainstorming about this the other day...P

I believe healing is .5 Enmity per health healed. That would produce 4001 enmity points for the tank, in theory. Its a cool idea but kind of useless since it creates a risk, and if the tank gets the first touch on the target, no one should be able to keep up with 150E + 600E + 1080E in the first 3 GCDs. But it would work and it would be fun to mess around with, if you want to do something unique and fun : D

[CurlyBruce]

That would be the case then : D - all FATE mobs are immune, because you could walk up to a FATE boss, hit provoke when it has 1% health left, and get Gold because the award is based on enmity.

Incidentally, you can still do this if you are in a Party since it's based on total party hate not necessarily your own. Nothing like showing up to Cancer to Shield Lob once at 1% and get Gold.