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    Xorn's Avatar
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    Xorn Tiras
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    Provoke = Useless?

    No matter what I do, what mob I use it on whether it be my level, above me or even level 1. All I ever get when I use provoke is "Provoke (Full Resist)".

    Is this normal?? Because I see other's use it and it doesnt resist.
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    Player rocheetbombe's Avatar
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    Astraea Hitaki
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    It only works when the mob is targetting somebody else. If somebody pulls it, you use provoke and it gives you one point of threat more than that person so the mob goes to you instead.
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocheetbombe View Post
    It only works when the mob is targetting somebody else. If somebody pulls it, you use provoke and it gives you one point of threat more than that person so the mob goes to you instead.
    Provoke is useless for this reason.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR View Post
    Provoke is useless for this reason.
    If the DPS is being an idiot, they'll keep attacking and not let the tank grab hate back. It's not useless it just needs people to co-operate. But then again this is an MMO so "What's Teamwork?"
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    Masterdarkjedi Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    If the DPS is being an idiot, they'll keep attacking and not let the tank grab hate back. It's not useless it just needs people to co-operate. But then again this is an MMO so "What's Teamwork?"
    Theres no team work in it only team work you will find its in ls or fc lol
    the rest going with flow like SE want it to lol
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    Curly Brace
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR View Post
    Provoke is useless for this reason.
    Because it can be used to get hate back on something? Seems pretty useful to me. It is also absolutely required for Turn 2 Coil, and has a multitude of other uses like getting hate back after dying and raising, etc.
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    Rage Bladerunner
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 50
    It's resisted if you're already top enmity, otherwise I've never seen it resist be it on bosses or mobs.

    Mechanically speaking all the ability does is take whoever's top enmity and makes it yours +1, so an excellent catch when a tank dies or when you pull a group and one breaks off- just tag it with a flash or tomahawk and you should be good to go.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    What provoke does is it puts you a few enmity points higher then the highest on the list. So if you, the tank, are at the top, then naturally it gets resisted. But if a DPS pulls hate you can use Provoke to get it back instantly, however if they're unloading you have to be quick rebuilding enmity.

    Provoke can also be used to pull mobs from a longer range to prevent annoying pulls e.g. the succubi in Amdapor Keep can be pulled alone despite it linking to 2 or 3 other mobs
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    Last edited by NintenPyjak64; 10-26-2013 at 04:28 AM.

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    Xorn Tiras
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    Yea, I get full resist no matter who it is on whether its me or someone else.
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    D'momo Pascal
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I call bs, because that's straight up impossible. If you expect provoke to work like it did in XI then that's not right. It does not increase your enmity with the target, it does something completely different:

    1. If you are not the current top aggro target of the mob (this includes mobs that are not engaged/claimed) the it optionally claims, sets your enmity to the highest enmity of your party, +1.

    2. If you are the current top aggro target of the mob, then it is resisted and does nothing.

    Do not use provoke mid-fight thinking that's how you build more aggro on a mob. It's used as a pulling/claim tool, and a saving mechanic if you lose hate on a target that goes after someone else.
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