Provoke = Useless?

[Xorn]

No matter what I do, what mob I use it on whether it be my level, above me or even level 1. All I ever get when I use provoke is "Provoke (Full Resist)".

Is this normal?? Because I see other's use it and it doesnt resist.

[rocheetbombe]

It only works when the mob is targetting somebody else. If somebody pulls it, you use provoke and it gives you one point of threat more than that person so the mob goes to you instead.

[Exrage]

It's resisted if you're already top enmity, otherwise I've never seen it resist be it on bosses or mobs.

Mechanically speaking all the ability does is take whoever's top enmity and makes it yours +1, so an excellent catch when a tank dies or when you pull a group and one breaks off- just tag it with a flash or tomahawk and you should be good to go.

[NintenPyjak64]

What provoke does is it puts you a few enmity points higher then the highest on the list. So if you, the tank, are at the top, then naturally it gets resisted. But if a DPS pulls hate you can use Provoke to get it back instantly, however if they're unloading you have to be quick rebuilding enmity.

Provoke can also be used to pull mobs from a longer range to prevent annoying pulls e.g. the succubi in Amdapor Keep can be pulled alone despite it linking to 2 or 3 other mobs

[Xorn]

Yea, I get full resist no matter who it is on whether its me or someone else.

[dark494]

I call bs, because that's straight up impossible. If you expect provoke to work like it did in XI then that's not right. It does not increase your enmity with the target, it does something completely different:

1. If you are not the current top aggro target of the mob (this includes mobs that are not engaged/claimed) the it optionally claims, sets your enmity to the highest enmity of your party, +1.

2. If you are the current top aggro target of the mob, then it is resisted and does nothing.

Do not use provoke mid-fight thinking that's how you build more aggro on a mob. It's used as a pulling/claim tool, and a saving mechanic if you lose hate on a target that goes after someone else.

[Mrydeen]

It also (Full resists) in Fates, when someone outside of you party is the enmity target.

[Jarlax]

I was brainstorming about this the other day with my tank friend and thought about, what if we all stack in an 8 man and I use cure III to purposely get agro for him to receive the hate value of a 1000 plus heal x8 with provoke, then I hit shroud and DPS go totally nuts not having to worry about pulling hate the rest of the fight. If one point of healing = 1 point of hate.......that would be kinda OP

[Exrage]

It also (Full resists) in Fates, when someone outside of you party is the enmity target.

Incorrect, tested both solo and with two alternating parties provoke managed to add their target's aggro +1 every time.

[Xorn]

It also (Full resists) in Fates, when someone outside of you party is the enmity target.

Ok that makes sense considering that is 95% of what I've been doing lately