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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennitus View Post
    I know some people that had never crashed at all and one of them is playing on a gaming laptop GTX 560 M.
    He plays on highest laptop settings... never crashed at Coerthas neither at Mor Dhona. Gotta know if its SE coding errors or computer specs at the end.
    Is SE even reading this thread?
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubermann View Post
    Misdiagnosis.

    Its not a heat issue. I'm playing with the same rig that I used at launch, a rig that did not encounter this problem until after the patch mentioned in this thread's OP. A rig which ONLY encounters this problem while FATE grinding, often the second a FATE ends, ONLY in zones with a lot of players, with crashes occurring when many of those players aren't even being rendered.

    I have a GTX 550 Ti, play on the the lowest settings available in the game (Medium for laptop), and have all effects for other players turned off. My PC isn't amazing, but it can handle plenty of other far more demanding games than this without issue.

    So no, its not a heat issue; its bad coding and programming on SE's end, just like the R6025 runtime error is. Its also inexcusable that both errors have persisted for so long.
    I don't think it's a programming issue on the server end. If it was, we all would have the same issue. Just reading through this thread, there are at least 3 separate issues going on:

    1.) Heat. Heat drives down voltage. As voltage drops, efficiency drops. As efficiency drops, the GPU ramps up to balance supply/demand. Rendering becomes unstable. Instead of looping forever, the card forces a panic and windows kills the program.

    2.) Drivers. When updating drivers, you never really get rid of the old driver (unless you scrub it in safe mode). The bits and pieces of the old driver could cause a panic and force close the program in an attempt to resolve the render loop.

    3.) Hardware Issue. Maybe the card is just bad/going bad. Semi conductors go bad all the time. Crappy solder job from the tool at the plant, a bad dye, impurities on the etching of the board, a blown or inefficient capacitor. All these can cause all sorts of havoc.

    I wouldn't rule anything out. Heat can and will cause exactly what some users are seeing. Without testing and consolidation of information, there isn't a way to tell if there is a common link.
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  3. #63
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    I think I fixed mine. Started playing the game 2 days ago with crashes every 15-20 minutes. As stated, most games previous ran temps around 62c-70c. This game runs well above that causing it crash. I have a highly ventable case I normally close up to keep dust out, but I opened them up this morning and only had 1 crash in 8 hours of play. I also changed the fan curve to put the fan up to 75% when its over 70.

    If anyone doesnt know how, the following utilities can help check for heat problems and help set your fan speed to kick on much faster:

    CPUID hwmonitor: I use this as it tracks the current and highest temp of the graphics card, CPU, HD, and other. Since it saves the highest temp, its easy to see if its heat causing the crash. Anywhere north of 75c is too hot. Open it, play the game for 15 minutes, alt tab and check Max column. Simple.

    EVGA Precision X: Easiest app to set your fan speed curves or just manually crank your fan to max.
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  4. #64
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    Been crashing like crazy just today I crashed over 20 times "trying" to level...
    No error just "Final Fantasy has stopped responding"
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyzeguy View Post
    Been crashing like crazy just today I crashed over 20 times "trying" to level...
    No error just "Final Fantasy has stopped responding"
    Check the temps on your cores. If you're breaking 90C, there's your problem. You can use a couple programs to monitor the hardware in your machine:

    GPUz: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
    CPUID: http://www.cpuid.com/ (Thanks Nashie!)

    Heat is the great equalizer for computers. The cooler your system stays, the better performance you will see (heat drives down voltage. Less voltage, less power to render. Less rendering, more crashing).
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  6. #66
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    By any chance do you all have nvidea graphic card? cos my gf and i both have nvidea and we are both experienced alot of errors lately cos of their constant update drivers. but now its really getting bad. We are both getting game freezes that last 30seconds or more. Literally freezes time stops picture like/not responding 4-8times a day now. Both of our internet network connetion is good.
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  7. #67
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    after posting this just as i update nvidea driver 331.90 now game client closes withing screen load or freezes/closed game client withing 10secs of being online.
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  8. #68
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    Just to add, in my case it's definately not heat. My CPU never goes above 50 degree's and my GPU never above 70. The only way I have managed to get my GPU to break 70 is by running furmark. Certainly not while gaming.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will01 View Post
    Just to add, in my case it's definately not heat. My CPU never goes above 50 degree's and my GPU never above 70. The only way I have managed to get my GPU to break 70 is by running furmark. Certainly not while gaming.
    A bad driver load maybe? Reading through the thread, it seems the GPU is the trigger for the crash. If it's not heat and the GPU isn't bad, it would be a driver issue or an overclocking conflict (voltage draw vs. voltage available).
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten View Post
    A bad driver load maybe? Reading through the thread, it seems the GPU is the trigger for the crash. If it's not heat and the GPU isn't bad, it would be a driver issue or an overclocking conflict (voltage draw vs. voltage available).
    I don't think so, I dont have issues in any other game. Only FFXIV, my PC is steady as a rock. I have even ran stress tests on RAM, CPU, Memory and HDD, everything passes any stability test I can throw at it.

    I must confess, recently this problem has not been as bad for me. I am limited to maybe 1 crash per week. However, I don't fate grind as much as I used to, which is where the problem seems to present itself he most.
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