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    Constant crashing indeed, this has been around for a long time now.... Address this, please!
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    First day playing

    First day playing and crashing every 5 minutes. Luckly being in IT im able to track problems down pretty quick.

    I havent gone through the settings yet to adjust it, but I can tell its a graphics card heat issue with a couple other games have. HWmonitor shows I go from 120 degrees outside game to near 200 in game. Overclocked GTX670. Most games for me run around 160 degrees. Gonna start playing with settings and if I find anything Ill post, after I turn my fan up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashie View Post
    First day playing and crashing every 5 minutes. Luckly being in IT im able to track problems down pretty quick.

    I can tell its a graphics card heat issue.
    Misdiagnosis.

    Its not a heat issue. I'm playing with the same rig that I used at launch, a rig that did not encounter this problem until after the patch mentioned in this thread's OP. A rig which ONLY encounters this problem while FATE grinding, often the second a FATE ends, ONLY in zones with a lot of players, with crashes occurring when many of those players aren't even being rendered.

    I have a GTX 550 Ti, play on the the lowest settings available in the game (Medium for laptop), and have all effects for other players turned off. My PC isn't amazing, but it can handle plenty of other far more demanding games than this without issue.

    So no, its not a heat issue; its bad coding and programming on SE's end, just like the R6025 runtime error is. Its also inexcusable that both errors have persisted for so long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubermann View Post
    Misdiagnosis.

    Its not a heat issue. I'm playing with the same rig that I used at launch, a rig that did not encounter this problem until after the patch mentioned in this thread's OP. A rig which ONLY encounters this problem while FATE grinding, often the second a FATE ends, ONLY in zones with a lot of players, with crashes occurring when many of those players aren't even being rendered.

    I have a GTX 550 Ti, play on the the lowest settings available in the game (Medium for laptop), and have all effects for other players turned off. My PC isn't amazing, but it can handle plenty of other far more demanding games than this without issue.

    So no, its not a heat issue; its bad coding and programming on SE's end, just like the R6025 runtime error is. Its also inexcusable that both errors have persisted for so long.
    I don't think it's a programming issue on the server end. If it was, we all would have the same issue. Just reading through this thread, there are at least 3 separate issues going on:

    1.) Heat. Heat drives down voltage. As voltage drops, efficiency drops. As efficiency drops, the GPU ramps up to balance supply/demand. Rendering becomes unstable. Instead of looping forever, the card forces a panic and windows kills the program.

    2.) Drivers. When updating drivers, you never really get rid of the old driver (unless you scrub it in safe mode). The bits and pieces of the old driver could cause a panic and force close the program in an attempt to resolve the render loop.

    3.) Hardware Issue. Maybe the card is just bad/going bad. Semi conductors go bad all the time. Crappy solder job from the tool at the plant, a bad dye, impurities on the etching of the board, a blown or inefficient capacitor. All these can cause all sorts of havoc.

    I wouldn't rule anything out. Heat can and will cause exactly what some users are seeing. Without testing and consolidation of information, there isn't a way to tell if there is a common link.
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    I think I fixed mine. Started playing the game 2 days ago with crashes every 15-20 minutes. As stated, most games previous ran temps around 62c-70c. This game runs well above that causing it crash. I have a highly ventable case I normally close up to keep dust out, but I opened them up this morning and only had 1 crash in 8 hours of play. I also changed the fan curve to put the fan up to 75% when its over 70.

    If anyone doesnt know how, the following utilities can help check for heat problems and help set your fan speed to kick on much faster:

    CPUID hwmonitor: I use this as it tracks the current and highest temp of the graphics card, CPU, HD, and other. Since it saves the highest temp, its easy to see if its heat causing the crash. Anywhere north of 75c is too hot. Open it, play the game for 15 minutes, alt tab and check Max column. Simple.

    EVGA Precision X: Easiest app to set your fan speed curves or just manually crank your fan to max.
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    Been crashing like crazy just today I crashed over 20 times "trying" to level...
    No error just "Final Fantasy has stopped responding"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyzeguy View Post
    Been crashing like crazy just today I crashed over 20 times "trying" to level...
    No error just "Final Fantasy has stopped responding"
    Check the temps on your cores. If you're breaking 90C, there's your problem. You can use a couple programs to monitor the hardware in your machine:

    GPUz: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
    CPUID: http://www.cpuid.com/ (Thanks Nashie!)

    Heat is the great equalizer for computers. The cooler your system stays, the better performance you will see (heat drives down voltage. Less voltage, less power to render. Less rendering, more crashing).
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