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  1. #91
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    Tzar Uck
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    There are totally 6 type of accessory, fending, maiming, striking, casting, healing and aiming.

    Melee DPS can use both striking and maiming version since both have similar stat. So they have 2 in 6 chances to get their item. In additional, both SMN and BLM have to contest for casting accessory. That means a 0.5 in 6 chances.

    This is unbalanced. Either you change the current system drop to token that can be exchanged for any classes gear or you nerf melee dps.
    So how many DPS are placed in a Group ??? x 4 dps vs x2 healers vs x 2 tanks thats a total of 6 possible mele people if party goup was 2 Drg 2 Mnk 1 War, 1 Pld So a mele DPS would be rolling against x 5 others in this instance.

    Yet when a caster item drops... your chances are against a total of 1 other. I dont get what your bitching about?
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  2. #92
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    Pomf Pomf
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by aray0002 View Post
    So how many DPS are placed in a Group ??? x 4 dps vs x2 healers vs x 2 tanks thats a total of 6 possible mele people if party goup was 2 Drg 2 Mnk 1 War, 1 Pld So a mele DPS would be rolling against x 5 others in this instance.

    Yet when a caster item drops... your chances are against a total of 1 other. I dont get what your bitching about?
    Fail fallacy is fail. Following your logic when ppl make 2 tank 4 healers party then when healing accessory drop healer will have to roll against 4 so healer item are harder to get? Oh wait you are an lancer what do i expect.

    The chance for caster drop is 1 in 6
    The chance for healer drop is 1 in 6
    The chance for tanker drop is 1 in 6
    The chance for bard drop is 1 in 6
    The chance for melee drop is 2 in 6
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  3. #93
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    Pomf Pomf
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    Quote Originally Posted by B0nes View Post
    You have to be joking...Melee ARE harder to play than bards, try it and you will see.
    You are joking, when your bard fail and your party will wipe.
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  4. #94
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    You are joking, when your bard fail and your party will wipe.
    When anyone fails in your party you stand a good chance of wiping regardless of class, BRD isn't some godsend to a party. What do you do that's so key to the group? Sing? That takes real skill to drain your MP bar passively, yep.

    Pulling slimes to Caduceus? BLM can do that easy.

    Silences on ADS? PLD/MNK can do that just fine.

    All you are is a song bot that regardless of what's going on in the fight can press their rotation uninterrupted without fail, that is why you are getting nerfed, movement has ZERO effect on your DPS output and you have next to no down time from one enemy to the next. <- THAT is why BRD damage is getting throttled next patch.

    TL;DR
    You are bad and should feel bad.
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  5. #95
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    Demon Bones
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    You are joking, when your bard fail and your party will wipe.
    If you fail at a bard YOU are BAD. The only reason people run 2 bards on silence is because its EASY, though the 2 pld in my group have absolutely no trouble with silence duty. Do bards have positional requirements? No. Do bards have to stop dps while dodging aoe? No. Do the vast majority of aoes even target you? No. Bard is easier than every other class, especially melee dps.
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    Last edited by B0nes; 11-10-2013 at 05:44 PM.

  6. #96
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    only kewl thing about bards are the gear they get. SE created them for ARR for casual players that can not manage AOE dodge as any other class. They actually are for those Button Mashers than cant figure out anything without looking on youtube 1st.
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  7. #97
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    Izsha Azel
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    Yes when a bard complains he is butthurt, his point is totally invalid, why a melee dps who stuck at titan complain, he is legit. Double standard at its best.
    Please show me where I mentioned titan, let alone complain about it. Nice red herring though.

    And, unlike certain people, *cough OP*, I actually PLAY more than 1 job at endgame. I play melee and bard in coil. Your ignorance is showing. FATE burning lnc to 34 for BfB doesnt qualify you to understand how an endgame melee works, let alone comment about who has it 'rough'.

    There are FOUR jobs that use Str as a primary stat in varying capacities. Mnk, Drg, and to a lesse extent war, and an even lesser extent Pld. There is ONE that uses Dex. Str is the most used stat so theres more gear with str.

    Next up: Why its unfair War can use 3 sets of Str AK gear making it so hard for bard to get any Tox gear. REMOVE THE GEAR OR NERF WAR!
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  8. #98
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    When anyone fails in your party you stand a good chance of wiping regardless of class
    dps, as long as you pull out average dps you still can hide behind everyone and get carried.

    Do bards have positional requirements? No. Do bards have to stop dps while dodging aoe? No. Do the vast majority of aoes even target you? No. Bard is easier than every other class, especially melee dps.
    Do melee dps have to stop dps while moving in melee range? No. How many aoe that hit melee but does not hit range? 2. Do melee dps care about any particular skill boss going to cast? Do bard have 300 potency skill like melee? No
    melee have extra aoe to avoid, range have extra job to do.

    There are FOUR jobs that use Str as a primary stat in varying capacities.
    tank - use str as primary stat - Oh words of the wizard.
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  9. #99
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    Misaki Satomi
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    Gladiator Lv 8
    Bards pls.
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Hope you know that War also try and get the DPS rings so they could set themself as dps when tank is not really needed. So really 3 jobs use it lol
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